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Shame it's not gonna get a release.Let's just hope they keep battering it for a while though so as many people as possible get to hear it.

Also seems as good a time as any to ask about roteks VIP,anyone any idea?

why would one release roteks vip? it's a special and besides that it's almost exactly the same as the original, same for xylophobia vip, battle vip, foreseen vip, you vip etc. not saying they're bad tracks, I enjoy all of them, I just couldn't understand why someone would release them on vinyl.
the only vip that would actually deserve a release because it really differs from the original is motherland vip imho.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see some of those VIPs come out on compilations. Bit like Good Old Days VIP was on DJ Madd's Transmissions comp.

Doubt Roteks/Badman VIP will see the light of day for a long long time though

soulkids wrote:why would one release roteks vip? it's a special and besides that it's almost exactly the same as the original, same for xylophobia vip, battle vip, foreseen vip, you vip etc. not saying they're bad tracks, I enjoy all of them, I just couldn't understand why someone would release them on vinyl.
the only vip that would actually deserve a release because it really differs from the original is motherland vip imho.

It's not like i expect the roteks vip to be released or demand it.But there have been shitter VIP's released,Xterminate VIP comes to mind as quite a recent one,that's more identical to the original than roteks VIP is to its original IMO.

VIPs are pretty much the last remnants of real exclusivity. They're not designed to be released or heard any other time than when the producer thinks it's justified.

They're meant to be so special that not everyone will be able to hear it, as sad or disappointing as that may be. But if you do get to hear it...it's just something else!

And to be honest, the fact that VIPs are just slightly different to the standard track means that hearing one is only a sort of 'icing on the cake' thing rather than completely missing out.

So to all those unable to hear a VIP, try and hear the original properly on a system. It'll still be sick.

The Roteks, Badman etc. (non-VIP) are fucking fire!

[edit] 200th post.

Stiletto Feel wrote:VIPs are pretty much the last remnants of real exclusivity. They're not designed to be released or heard any other time than when the producer thinks it's justified.

They're meant to be so special that not everyone will be able to hear it, as sad or disappointing as that may be. But if you do get to hear it...it's just something else!

And to be honest, the fact that VIPs are just slightly different to the standard track means that hearing one is only a sort of 'icing on the cake' thing rather than completely missing out.

So to all those unable to hear a VIP, try and hear the original properly on a system. It'll still be sick.

The Roteks, Badman etc. (non-VIP) are fucking fire!

Arguement closed.

I really wouldnt expect these huge VIPs to see the light of day. The same issue came about with Eyez VIP.

The only time i could probably see anyone releasing such tunes would be several years where the appeal is almost gone because its not a new track thats smashing the dances.

Hugely disappointed there will be no one with the tune to drop at Outlook...

Has Youngsta said hes not playing Outlook or does he just seem to not comment?

badman vip not as deserving of a release as fatman vip?

fatman and the vip were released abt 2 years apart so that would put badman vip at early 2012... just dreaming a bit

does anyone know why kryptic minds aren't playing outlook this year?

if you wanna get your hands on big vips best thing to do is make huge tunes and make people vips and share them in exchange for other vips

theyre not designed for release but they do sometimes come out

hendramarshall wrote:badman vip not as deserving of a release as fatman vip?

fatman and the vip were released abt 2 years apart so that would put badman vip at early 2012... just dreaming a bit

Fatman and truth are absolutely nothing on badman and kryptic minds.

Reamz wrote:

hendramarshall wrote:badman vip not as deserving of a release as fatman vip?

fatman and the vip were released abt 2 years apart so that would put badman vip at early 2012... just dreaming a bit

Fatman and truth are absolutely nothing on badman and kryptic minds.

im somewhat inclined to agree with this sentiment, so ill stay hopeful for badman vip on the next KM album

this should be released - please!

edit: as a 12'' standalone single!

Didn't they just say that it's just a VIP for them and Yunx to play and that it's never getting a release?

Yeah, they said that on Twitter the other day. Gutted.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:if you wanna get your hands on big vips best thing to do is make huge tunes and make people vips and share them in exchange for other vips

This!

Although it seems to me another step in the Kryptic Minds/Youngsta love-in.

Not that that's a bad thing >.>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86Gpxgf ... re=related

there it is.

Did no one clock that KM played this on distance's b2b2b2b special on weds? Best quality so far!

Moultz wrote:Did no one clock that KM played this on distance's b2b2b2b special on weds? Best quality so far!

Yeah, that show was great overall - KM played some fresh (? I hadn't heard it before at least), huge material.. Their bits were definitely the highlights

anyone headed KM at fwd>> next week?