noam wrote:the amount of facebook statuses that i've seen where people seem HAPPY she's dead! ridiculous
often the same people dropping that shit-arsed argument about Norway, as if one somehow is more worthy than the other because people are too thick to apply their own values and ignore the media coverage they're ignorantly being spoonfed; the same media coverage they're lapping up and valuing is the same they're denouncing with the comparison - again, ridiculous
and the shit, shit, shit jokes... i mean, really bottom-of-the-barrel, is FINE, ofcourse, how could it not be cos after all, it would be stupid to think that there are some things that although you CAN joke about, a) its not really funny to, and b) its not sensible to
i COULD make a load of jokes about dead Norwegians... cos people are gona do that in the future
but im not thick as pigshit and know that sometimes its responsible and sensible to wait to make jokes about serious events, because my moral landscape isn't described in a few episodes of South Park
this kind of moralising and telling people what's 'sensible' is just some sort of control mechanism.
its about self control
not controlling others
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:31 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
at the end of the day she doesnt care shes dead, probably wanted to die on some level if shes doing that to her body..
and i never knew her personally so feel nothing towards her and suddenly shes everyones favourite singer..
you can write blah blah blah all you want you know it makes sense..
i dont see who its offending noam theyre not reading snh or peoples fbs they dont know (her family) so who exactly is gonna get offended?
god? are you talking about a hidden force watching over us thats gonna punish us?
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:56 pm
by kingGhost
kingGhost wrote:hate it when, in a situation like this, some asshole is always saying something like "i don't think celebrities are special, what about [insert other suffering people here]?" - for fuck's sake, no one has forgotten about the starving children in Africa, we're just talking about a musician who has died, whose music some of us liked. fuck off.
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:04 pm
by say_whut
Facebook is going nuts about this.
This group has been "liked" a lot: "Amy Winehouse dies, everyone's upset. Soldier dies, the world doesn't care."
Funny how many people don't openly show such care about our troops until someone of considerable fame dies, eh?
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:35 pm
by neon-dubz
We don't need to care about soldiers or amy winehouse,They made their choices let's care about our own.
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:45 pm
by Montgomery Burns
jameshk wrote:such a waste. r.i.p
Fuckin sad news. Love her music... RIP Amy.
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:05 pm
by MCRD+
Everybody is being so quick with assumptions,but it might not even be drug related,like
It could be some freak accident or something
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:37 pm
by 2manynoobs
I think every person's death should be respected such each person should be respected regardless of what it did in its life. Even bad people have their reasons to do the things they do. Anyways calling some one bad is just a matter of perception imo.
Amy winehouwe was a great artist and I thank her for her contribute to the music world. She clearly showed she was capable of expressing herself in her own way, respect for that. Too bad that we live in this current difficult state. It would have been different in any other situation but it is what it is and there's nothing to be done or said.
RIP Amy. May your soul be blessed!
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:01 pm
by stappard
Pistonsbeneath wrote:at the end of the day she doesnt care shes dead, probably wanted to die on some level if shes doing that to her body..
and i never knew her personally so feel nothing towards her and suddenly shes everyones favourite singer..
you can write blah blah blah all you want you know it makes sense..
i dont see who its offending noam theyre not reading snh or peoples fbs they dont know (her family) so who exactly is gonna get offended?
god? are you talking about a hidden force watching over us thats gonna punish us?
im with noam
end of the day if all your worried about is her family hearing and being offended then you need some more respect for the dead (and therefore for life)
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:56 pm
by noam
telling offensive jokes is different to offending people directly
if you joke about jews dying in the holocaust you know its offensive regardless of who's around to hear it
Maynard James Keenan wrote:Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.
in response to the 'hidden force' comment, i'll quote myself
Noam wrote:its about self control
not controlling others
there's loads of things you CAN do
what you SHOULD do is a different matter entirely
if it doesn't bother you fine, sweet, doesn't mean its the right or sensible thing to do
if its just harmless fun then to you then thats what it is
but it seems vulgar and embittered to me, spurned on by the bizarre comparison to events in Norway, that apparently justify the negativity towards the behaviour which lead to her death
aside from that, there's just so many people with shit opinions on it... like... really shit...
one of them i've seen being thrown around is the whole '27 club' thing, comparing her with Hendrix etc. and a loada people spitefully claiming things like 'oh my god cant believe she's been compared with Hendrix!?! she only had 2 albums' etc. etc.
if thats the case what's her death got to do with anything, comparing their music is one thing, but in comparing their deaths they're both as bad as each other
and its all been brought about by the enormous media storm thats surrounded her wherever she's been and whatever she's done
i think a lot of it is sexist and overtly materialistic, judging her primarily on appearance and absolutely, relentlessly assassinating her character at every turn
think how many GENUINE stories of her you've read, and then how many half/quarter page images you've seen with tiny captions or 2 line paragraphs explaining some hashed up, unconfirmed glorified chinese whisper disguised as a 'story'...
basically anyone who feels anything other than this was just a sad event, has been emotionally hijacked by tabloid sensationalism...
im not painting her as a martyr, but the media as sadistic and people as stupid and cheaply bought
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:13 am
by capo ultra
it's hard to to feel empathy for others when you are young and have not experienced real pain and suffering yet, misguided notions of misanthropy will pass as adulthood sets in
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:15 am
by phrex
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:15 am
by kingGhost
capo ultra wrote:it's hard to to feel empathy for others when you are young and have not experienced real pain and suffering yet, misguided notions of misanthropy will pass as adulthood sets in
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:22 am
by flyingointment
drugs r bad they fuck u up - kurt cobian
Seriously, tho, that shit is sad...not a fan of the music or anything, but I respect it and her voice.
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:46 am
by bassrael
Montgomery Burns wrote:
jameshk wrote:such a waste. r.i.p
Fuckin sad news. Love her music... RIP Amy.
+1
RIP
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:46 am
by firky
Capo
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:35 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
kingGhost wrote:
capo ultra wrote:it's hard to to feel empathy for others when you are young and have not experienced real pain and suffering yet, misguided notions of misanthropy will pass as adulthood sets in
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:50 am
by wub
Apparently fans have been leaving bottles of vodka and packs of cigarettes as 'tributes' outside her flat in Camden
Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:13 am
by firky
Gotta love the British gallows humour and just "our" way of dealing with various tragedies
July the 7th, terrorist attack. London's response... "Is that it? A couple of bombs? We've been here for three thousand years, son, even the blitz couldn't so much as put a wobble on our stiff upper lips."
