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okay that makes sense, thanks!

Quick not-so embarassing but pretty basic question, concerning kicks: Does the theory of fine-detuning, say two separate kick samples in different directions, to make them sound wider and fuller apply as it does to basses/leads and the like? Because I want to try it but I don't want to fuck up the kick by possibly un-centering it. I know it's not necessarily panning which is what messes with the kick's impact, but I'm wondering if the potential resulting phasing will ruin it?

I know the obvious answer is "just try it and see how it sounds" but I'd rather ask those wiser than me to see if it's a shit idea or not so I can get it out of my head now. I'm generally not very good at A/Bing subtle changes, and the "centering" of the kick would probably be such.

^ your question is about bass frequencies and its may sound like a simple one, but the answer isn't imo.

let's just say, from my very own experience, ive always found that very low information is best processed by ur brain when its simple. I can imagine kicks with a long tail having some beating in freqs... could be an interesting effect, could be an ugly one... and ive seen some ultra "fat" kicks that sound like they're doubles detuned.. but i dont know any recipe for that..

The part about the too obvious "you should try" ... is impossible to skip.. simply because there is no such thing as "the kick"... there are kick drum samples/kickdrum-ish synth sounds... which will all behave differently with one another.. and very likely have different tones (notes i mean)... different spectral "profiles" and different envelopes.. it varies.

but i guess it could make a low end punchy sound.. so yes it could make a kick... but i REALLY think theorizing these things is not pragmatic.

i like to keep my very low freqs SIMPLE.

just my 0.02 CAD

How aggressively do people generally low cut the sub frequencies on the sub-bass/kick/master? Seems like some people give a gentle low cut that ranges from -5db to 0db for 0-30 Hz and others give a cut that uses about -24db up until 40-50 Hz.

...and others simply dont cut anything at all.

i keep hearing 20 as the trendyiest because it corresponds the average leftmost bracket of the human-hearable part of the spectrum

Ok here's am embarrassing question- what's the utility of resampling? Why not just chain the appropriate devices/fx in the first place? Sorry

ain't about the FX as much as it is about arranging and chopping audio clips. you can trigger them from any start point u want in a sampler (not to mention loop them or trigger them reversed), instead fo worrying about MIDI signals and the synth's behaviour, you can just manipulate the sample knowing that its original contents will not change. You can drag the audio around, slice it, put it wherever u want where it sounds good. No worrying about MIDI/quantize .

really basic example -- sampling a wobble at different rates, and chopping/pasting them together to get a riff going (no fucking about with LFO's automation).

its all about if you work like a sampler or like a synthesist. But besides that, even just building up samples out of other samples. Resampling some conglomerate of orchestral instruments so that u can carry around that big huge orchestra sample that u designed urself, all in one file. Etc, etc.

A-ha. Makes more sense now. Thanks for that. I feel enlightened.

So is that the secret to having those ever-changing basslines? I've often wondered how the fux to organize all the different clips to create those evolving basslines. This seems way easier. Mhmmm

just record them all. That way they'll stand still for you while you reach for the scissors.

Ok so my question is I've been experimenting with bass line splitting and what not. So i go to bounce to audio so I can just run it back through my effects chain and save some cpu, record a nice long note in edision, zero crossing is set. Then I attempt to search the sample for spot to chop out and export to wav, but the problem is I still hear slight clipping no matter how hard I search through the sample. Now maybe I'm going about doing this the wrong way or takes practice? Or an easier way even? Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.

Quick edit: I guess this would apply to more than just my basslines, have had trouble trying to make samples via this process just in general. Thanks again.

Yeah, when you cut, look for whats called a zero crossing. Its a point on your waveform that the wave is at 0 (perfect center). Of couse you won't find it on a synth sound unless you record a bit before then cut at precisely before the first (waveform) sample of the sound.

its the bit that looks like this



Alternatively, if you cant find one, you can set a very short attack on your sampler, but I find sometimes it takes the bite off the fromt of the osund, especially impact sounds that start off very loud.

Got another brain-melter for ya. What does bounce mean? lol. ie, bounce to audio. Gah, sorry again...

Hexodus wrote:Got another brain-melter for ya. What does bounce mean? lol. ie, bounce to audio. Gah, sorry again...

Save it as an audio file, then re-open it in a sampler to adjust it further or just use it in your song as a sample

aka "print", "render", "record", "track", "cut", "sample", "resample"...

anyone know any more? =p

How do I set up my sampler to play a sound on any key without the sound speeding up or slowing down?

-[2]DAY_- wrote:aka "print", "render", "record", "track", "cut", "sample", "resample"...

anyone know any more? =p

ping pong?

Insahn wrote:ping pong?

lol, I know, bounce sounds weird doesn't it.

Its from the old days of 4 track tape. when you recorded 3 tracks, you would have to 'bounce' them across the tape head to the first track so that you could record more stuff. By using this method, you could record using 18-12 tracks to a 4 track, every time you've used 3 tracks, bounce them onto the 4th and carry on. More than 12 tracks however, and the noise level from so many recordings ontop of each other would pretty much kill your recordings.

Yet another piece of info academy taught me for no reason whatsoever

Insahn wrote:How do I set up my sampler to play a sound on any key without the sound speeding up or slowing down?

A sampler with granular capabilities should do that automatically (not positive on this one)

^what sampler are you using...

Sorry, I'm using Kontakt 4 or Ableton's Native Sampler.