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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:39 pm
by ory
listened to the mix and tried to maybe change my mind about KM, but I still think it suffers from wannabe-dark neuro bassline syndrome. then there's the pleasant but ultimately shallow ambient moments. pass.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:00 pm
by bandshell
beatlejuice wrote:at the risk of sounding crass...

...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse
But if everyone did that i bet you'd be like fuck sake it's all garage/breaks clones. Variety is the spice of life. Too much of anything is gonna get tiring. Personally I think techno influenced stuff is great.

also

people don't need to do anything, it'd just be nicer for you if they did.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:34 pm
by Be-1ne
I got half way through the mix on a walk tot he shops and back.... OMG....

Seriously some of the best music i have ever heard!!

It sounds nothing like loefah!!

Has shit loads of breaks in it!!!

anyone who hates on this is a fucking tool!!!

regardless of wether or not its your thing or not, this is straight up high quality music. Anyone who likes music would find some thing to like in this.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:55 pm
by djfurness
beatlejuice wrote:at the risk of sounding crass...

...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse

i pity the fools who in retrospect are only recently discovering 2 step and garage breaks, who never heard the sound develop in real time, who read wiki and believe its gospel, who were too busy listening to shit d'n'b long after the conscious had abandoned it to the technoids and beat zombies...

and blackdown, you remind me of an embedded journalist working for fox media if dubstep were the iraq war. Manufacturing the news from one side and spinning it to suit your own agenda. Even to the point of baiting your subjects to say controversial shit to defend their differing opinions then switching to different subjects so they dont get to elucidate further such that when taken out of context, their soundbites can be totally misleading

the thing that cracks me up the most tho is you think you're an equal in the game but you're not. In many ways you're privileged and no matter how street you think you are you just aint. You'd be better off reporting unbiasedly on the state of dubstep in all its glory or shame and leaving the producing to people who actually have something worth saying in their music...

...in my oh so humble opinion :lol:
At the risk of sounding crass......your a complete and utter tool

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:57 pm
by shaan
yeah my beef was with the hype surrounding it - not the music or blackdown at all.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:06 pm
by ghosttown
Shaan wrote:yeah my beef was with the hype surrounding it - not the music or blackdown at all.
the music has caused the hype nothing else. the music speaks for its self.

been listening to this mix at work all day, pure sickness!

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:27 pm
by pete
beatlejuice wrote:techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse
SHUT YOUR HEAD.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:29 pm
by capo ultra
BADMAN is BADMAN!

Release?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:37 pm
by shaan
ghosttown wrote:
Shaan wrote:yeah my beef was with the hype surrounding it - not the music or blackdown at all.
the music has caused the hype nothing else. the music speaks for its self.

been listening to this mix at work all day, pure sickness!
the hype was caused by loefah getting behind it

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:57 pm
by ghosttown
Shaan wrote:
ghosttown wrote:
Shaan wrote:yeah my beef was with the hype surrounding it - not the music or blackdown at all.
the music has caused the hype nothing else. the music speaks for its self.

been listening to this mix at work all day, pure sickness!
the hype was caused by loefah getting behind it
maybe you should check youngsta rinse fm sets from over a year ago

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:22 pm
by capo ultra
Shaan wrote:
ghosttown wrote:
Shaan wrote:yeah my beef was with the hype surrounding it - not the music or blackdown at all.
the music has caused the hype nothing else. the music speaks for its self.

been listening to this mix at work all day, pure sickness!
the hype was caused by loefah getting behind it
Nar it's not that. Everyone been banging out the remix record long time before Loefah's label got behind 'em and that newer record on Loefah's record is sick regardless of the label. Proper headbang the speaker stack business

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:23 am
by beatlejuice
bandshell wrote:
beatlejuice wrote:at the risk of sounding crass...

...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse
But if everyone did that i bet you'd be like fuck sake it's all garage/breaks clones. Variety is the spice of life. Too much of anything is gonna get tiring. Personally I think techno influenced stuff is great.

also

people don't need to do anything, it'd just be nicer for you if they did.
actually nah...

...if more producers reinterpreted/evolved garage/breaks i'd be happy as all fuck

and if blackdown got off digital mystikz and kode 9's dick and everyone else they hand pick for a short trip to cliquesville for one sec and wrote about stuff going on in the wider dubstep sphere i'd be positively ecstatic...

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:09 am
by ???who
Does anybody know when their album will be released?

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:15 am
by danoldboy
beatlejuice wrote:
bandshell wrote:
beatlejuice wrote:at the risk of sounding crass...

...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse
But if everyone did that i bet you'd be like fuck sake it's all garage/breaks clones. Variety is the spice of life. Too much of anything is gonna get tiring. Personally I think techno influenced stuff is great.

also

people don't need to do anything, it'd just be nicer for you if they did.
actually nah...

...if more producers reinterpreted/evolved garage/breaks i'd be happy as all fuck

and if blackdown got off digital mystikz and kode 9's dick and everyone else they hand pick for a short trip to cliquesville for one sec and wrote about stuff going on in the wider dubstep sphere i'd be positively ecstatic...
Do you ever read his blog? To be fair he informatively covers more musical ground than most, i.e. he doesn't make shit up about what he doesn't know...like Simon Reynolds these days for instance.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:24 am
by ghosttown
Shaan wrote:http://www.rampradio.co.uk/media/files/ ... ge_9_1.mp3

El-B & Jay Da Flew on ramp radio - ghost showcase

listen to this and tell me that it's not a thousand times more worthy of hype
i've listened its cool. you can't compare it to kryptic minds music very different styles.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:29 am
by ghosttown
beatlejuice wrote:
bandshell wrote:
beatlejuice wrote:at the risk of sounding crass...

...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scubas doing recently that just sucks arse
But if everyone did that i bet you'd be like fuck sake it's all garage/breaks clones. Variety is the spice of life. Too much of anything is gonna get tiring. Personally I think techno influenced stuff is great.

also

people don't need to do anything, it'd just be nicer for you if they did.
actually nah...

...if more producers reinterpreted/evolved garage/breaks i'd be happy as all fuck

and if blackdown got off digital mystikz and kode 9's dick and everyone else they hand pick for a short trip to cliquesville for one sec and wrote about stuff going on in the wider dubstep sphere i'd be positively ecstatic...
yet again all you seem to do is bitch about other people, this whole thread is about you bitching. pointless...... :roll:

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:46 am
by dankmorass
absolutely incredible interview and mix. towering respect to blackdown for taking the time to share it online. so many interesting and insightful bits put forward.

the last two Kryptic Minds releases have pushed all the right buttons for me. i seriously don't understand some of the views put forward in this thread. the production values that are being brought to the table in these tunes are nothing short of epic.

and mad kudos out to loefah. he has always been one of the most humble dudes in the scene with nothing but integrity and passion for what he's doing. an absolute pleasure to host when he was in australia last year.

i hope swamp 81 goes on to achieve massive tings!

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:46 am
by DeepThought
beatlejuice wrote:actually nah...

...if more producers reinterpreted/evolved garage/breaks i'd be happy as all fuck

and if blackdown got off digital mystikz and kode 9's dick and everyone else they hand pick for a short trip to cliquesville for one sec and wrote about stuff going on in the wider dubstep sphere i'd be positively ecstatic...
mate if anyone has actively been tryin to push the garage thing back into the wider dubstep ear the past couple years it's blackdown, if you havent realised this more the fool you.

you just tryin to bait him with yr troll bs.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:37 am
by spiderman
beatlejuice why dont u stop listenin to this and other kind of dubstep you dont like, and go off and make some garage & breaks influenced dubstep...

maybe then you would be happier insted of pissing and moaning on here and you would be doing something positive.

:t:

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:41 am
by geoff
beatlejuice is that dubmugga tosser innit, same shit, different jacket. guys like a scratched record blatantly.