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Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:19 am
by knobgoblin
I recently played around with my buddies keys. Was very shocked at how good it sounded for the price. I don't remember it being too noisey. The filter was really cool. Different sound than my ms20. I remember being very impressed with the bass sounds I could create with it. I have room in my setup for one volca, and I've been leaning towards this one
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:24 am
by nowaysj
Will let you know. The fact that you can get a analog three note paraphonic for a hundred dollars is just ridiculous. A few years ago, that notion would just be ludicrous.
Can't wait to see what it sounds like. From what I've heard from demos, I really like the sound.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:41 am
by mks
These new devices only have MIDI in. It really limits the MIDI chains you can have. The have to be at the end of the chain and you will need multiple outs to control these. Where are the MIDI outs and throughs these days?
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:57 am
by cyclopian
mks wrote:These new devices only have MIDI in. It really limits the MIDI chains you can have. The have to be at the end of the chain and you will need multiple outs to control these. Where are the MIDI outs and throughs these days?
the monotribe is notoriously easy to mod for midi, are the volca boxes the same? Havent really looked into it myself.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:07 am
by fragments
mks wrote:These new devices only have MIDI in. It really limits the MIDI chains you can have. The have to be at the end of the chain and you will need multiple outs to control these. Where are the MIDI outs and throughs these days?
Nothing new has anything but MIDI in...its very frustrating...that is why I have multiple thru boxes and a midi patchbay...
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:13 am
by knobgoblin
Weird... Forum ate my post I guess...
I use one of these:
http://www.midi-store.com/mobile/produc ... fgoddq4AkQ
Cheap and reliable. My biggest concern was that each device you daisy chain adds latency and slop to your signal. Trying to sync 4 external sequencers together daisy chained the last box is significantly off from the first box. Now I run my master clock and transport signal to this box and distribute from there. It solved my sync problems
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:25 am
by fragments
knobgoblin wrote:Weird... Forum ate my post I guess...
I use one of these:
http://www.midi-store.com/mobile/produc ... fgoddq4AkQ
Cheap and reliable. My biggest concern was that each device you daisy chain adds latency and slop to your signal. Trying to sync 4 external sequencers together daisy chained the last box is significantly off from the first box. Now I run my master clock and transport signal to this box and distribute from there. It solved my sync problems
Those things are pretty great. I've got one : )
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:21 am
by mks
knobgoblin wrote:Weird... Forum ate my post I guess...
I use one of these:
http://www.midi-store.com/mobile/produc ... fgoddq4AkQ
Cheap and reliable. My biggest concern was that each device you daisy chain adds latency and slop to your signal. Trying to sync 4 external sequencers together daisy chained the last box is significantly off from the first box. Now I run my master clock and transport signal to this box and distribute from there. It solved my sync problems
Thank you. I might need one of these devices. Although, I just found one of these in my collection. I'm going to see if it will work.
I've had this since the '90's. It was built for old mac's, but I want to see how it does standalone.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:42 am
by nowaysj
Do those units require power? What happens if you split a midi cable into two, like manually?
KP3+ arrived early today. That was hells of fast. In pretty good condition. Pretty substantial little unit. Flatter than I thought. Strep throat has me knocked the f'out though, didn't even plug it in. Am about to rtfm.
Wtf am I doing with all this gear without a mixer? So dumb.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:42 am
by mks
mks wrote:So far, so good. I'm liking it. I was able to get it going pretty intuitively. I just pulled out the manual for the deeper functions. I started with the internal speaker, and then plugged it into some Philips laptop speakers. I can hear that the kicks and toms can have some bass weight. Can't wait to hear this on bigger speakers. It's got potential for being such a little analog device.
Yes, patched this thing into my DJ mixer, which is a Rane TTM-56, going through a Kenwood amp to some Klipsch KG-4 speakers. I know these speakers very well, and they can kick out some bass. Volca Beats has some bass weight, will need to be eq'd and compressed probably.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:45 am
by mks
nowaysj wrote:Do those units require power?
I believe these are powerless. Have not tested yet, but I think it will work.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:46 am
by mks
By the way, you know some of the guys from Opcode went on to form Cycling'76 to help develop MAX/MSP, from what I recall. The MAX part was already there.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:55 am
by nowaysj
Yeah, I was going to say Opcode, lol.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:59 am
by mks
Opcode Vision was my first sequencing program. Used it for years on an old Mac. Was pretty awesome actually.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:06 am
by nowaysj
Yeah, oldshoool. I've got an old mark of the unicorn midisport with a serial interface that I've been holding onto all these years, but I think you have me beat for antiquity.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:18 am
by mks
If there is one thing that I have learned, you can do a lot with old technologies. I have built whole theories around this concept.
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:32 am
by nowaysj
Bro that alesis sequencer that you've got looks like it came out of War Games.
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Just had a little living room session with ipad and kp3+ and wife on mic. Pretty nice stuff. Wish you could only affect/effect one sample bank at a time, keep the others dry. Maybe you can...?
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:38 am
by knobgoblin
Sadly, the opcode era was the last time computers were able to output rock solid midi sync. It's all been downhill from there
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:48 am
by Lye_Form
Peeeeeng set up nowaysj where you based now?
Re: Gear lust
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:40 pm
by nowaysj
Tip of the hat to you.
I've relocated to my mountain fortress. It is below the mountain in my avatar. It is much more affordable here, and I don't have to follow world news anymore as I'm now secure in the short, medium and long term. I'm still not setup, so have terribly blue, musical blue balls. It hurts to walk.