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seckle wrote:Uk rioting through the ages....
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/op ... 55535.html

Didn't know that in the 1600's, rioting forced King Charles the 1st to abandon London. Heavy...

That's why I love their history


oh ps; “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons” fav quote from tha man, and euh; hf locking up those 14 year olds

Magma, that they didn't want freeing ain't that odd. They probably have lists of prisoners, the prison becomes their new home and many get really really attached to it (how awful it may sound) and there could be other reasons :d

btw sd5, seconds post I read of u ;x didn't even notice it was u

sorry,
I became righteous
& consequentially verbose.

hahaha u've edited ur post? I think, I'm not sure, didn't read ;x

Every time I look at you avatar I see a warped version of a swastika.

Its a 2 in 1, got any problems with that? Go search the meaning of a swastika because I can't help them izan's took it as well

lolololol @ izan's (censorship I mean is funny, izan's lololol)

mIrReN wrote:Its a 2 in 1, got any problems with that? Go search the meaning of a swastika because I can't help them izan's took it as well

No problems here,just wasn't sure if it was intentional and I'm well informed about the history of the symbol

This is the most disgraceful footage yet...

Pedro Sánchez wrote:This is the most disgraceful footage yet...

Courts going in hard, 2 blokes just got 4 years each for inciting riots on facebook. Some woman got 5 months for having a pair of stolen shorts in her house.

Watched a bit of News Night last night, they had a QC on there and he reckons that 99% of these cases will be reduced on appeal. I kinda agree with him. These people do deserve to be punished, and I can see why the courts are giving out these sentances to deter it from happening again, but most of them are ridiculous. Id rather see someone who has been carrying a knife or gun or something given a stronger sentance than somebody who stole a bottle of lucazade from Poundland!

I'd really like to know the details of what the 2 Facebook guys wrote to warrant a 4 year sentence. We've had people inciting violence for at least 10 years now who haven't faced such harsh sentencing. Do they even know whether anyone actually listened to them?

Mr Hyde wrote:Courts going in hard, 2 blokes just got 4 years each for inciting riots on facebook. Some woman got 5 months for having a pair of stolen shorts in her house.

that's disgusting

Mr Hyde wrote:Courts going in hard, 2 blokes just got 4 years each for inciting riots on facebook. Some woman got 5 months for having a pair of stolen shorts in her house.

thats so stuppid, should arrest the bankers throw away the key etc etc

kay wrote:I'd really like to know the details of what the 2 Facebook guys wrote to warrant a 4 year sentence. We've had people inciting violence for at least 10 years now who haven't faced such harsh sentencing. Do they even know whether anyone actually listened to them?

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/872572-two- ... n-facebook

I think it's crackers how parents can shop their kid over them taking something that cost £1 though... 'it's what any honest parent would do...' fuck off you're creating more hassle than it's worth by far!

kay wrote:I'd really like to know the details of what the 2 Facebook guys wrote to warrant a 4 year sentence. We've had people inciting violence for at least 10 years now who haven't faced such harsh sentencing. Do they even know whether anyone actually listened to them?

According to the Metro this morning, nobody even turned up.

I can see a lot of these ending up in the court of appeal... the judges seem to have taken leave of their senses for the week, it's madness.

The law should be free from passion. Just because this was a riot, doesn't mean sentencing suddenly changes for crimes we've already legislated against (i.e. burglary, incitement to violence, criminal damage and handling stolen goods).

LA_Boxers wrote:

kay wrote:I'd really like to know the details of what the 2 Facebook guys wrote to warrant a 4 year sentence. We've had people inciting violence for at least 10 years now who haven't faced such harsh sentencing. Do they even know whether anyone actually listened to them?

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/872572-two- ... n-facebook

yeah, neither of their facebook posts ended up even starting riots, 4 years for suggesting something that didn't happen seems well over the top. I'm guessing they'll appeal and it'll get reduced- big headline story to stop anyone else trying to organise anything new.

should watch what you say in SNH- you could get 4 years for it even if nothing happens!

I know someone that nicked £30,000 from my old company, got fired and told to pay the money back, no Police or anything- 'minimise reputational risk'.

Seems that if you wanna do nicking then need to be a bit smarter about it than smashing shop windows in broad daylight, 'the man' seems a lot more bothered about that obvious type stuff that makes for good photos rather than the huge amounts people get from expense fiddling and corporate level theft which is more boring to report on.

magma wrote: According to the Metro this morning, nobody even turned up.

I can see a lot of these ending up in the court of appeal... the judges seem to have taken leave of their senses for the week, it's madness.

The law should be free from passion. Just because this was a riot, doesn't mean sentencing suddenly changes for crimes we've already legislated against (i.e. burglary, incitement to violence, criminal damage and handling stolen goods).

Completely agree, had discussions elsewhere when I argued the riots shouldn't be either aggravating or mitigating but that all sentences should be merited by the offence and nothing else.

I especially dislike the argument that sentences should be harsher to act a a deterrent, it effectively results in a person being punished for an offence someone else is yet to commit which is particularly absurd.