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Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am
by Forum
wub wrote:
southstar wrote:They'll struggle to keep Modric and Bale at the club now...

Agreed...almost feel sorry for Spurs the way they lost out on CL football.


But then I remind myself that Harry Redknapp is a massive tnuc and the feeling subsides.
I would of thought you would have a special place in your heart for Redknapp after what he did to pompey...

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:34 am
by Dead Rats
wub wrote:
southstar wrote:They'll struggle to keep Modric and Bale at the club now...

Agreed...almost feel sorry for Spurs the way they lost out on CL football.


But then I remind myself that Harry Redknapp is a massive tnuc and the feeling subsides.

Maybe he is, but Fergie and Wenger are bigger stnuc. Football is full of them, and in the sight of things, Redknapp's probably one of the lesser tnuc managers out there.

Yep. Going to be hard for us, now, which is half the problem, we're going to be back to the starting blocks. Very surprised if Bale stays with us, I'm already fully prepared for a Modric exit, and it looks like VDV'll probably take up that Germany offer now.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 am
by wub
Liam92 wrote:Also, on the Redknapp issue, really strange seeing him on telly during the Euros, talking about the Tottenham job and now he's gone :corntard:
The interview he gave before the France match where they out & out asked him about leaving Spurs and he denied it, then went on to say he'd have taken the England job if it was offered...something clearly wasn't right at the time.
southstar wrote:I would of thought you would have a special place in your heart for Redknapp after what he did to pompey...
He got Saints relegated, then jumped ship to Pompey.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:17 am
by scspkr99
Liam92 wrote:
scspkr99 wrote:Apart from the obvious question of why the English Premier League, why not the Dutch league?
Well, it's pretty obvious really, Celtic is based in Glasgow and the Premiership is based in England, easier to make it to away games, easier for fans to make it to our ground.
It remains a Scottish club and as such should play in a Scottish league. Moving Celtic to one of the English divisions makes no sense and at the expense of what clubs or should whatever English division Celtic move to relegate a team due to play in it?

It's a nonsense and has been since the issue was first mooted. It's only really up for discussion now that Rangers look fucked.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:19 am
by scspkr99
wub wrote:
Heard Martinez is in the mix as well...
I think Martinez could be a decent manager but I hate to think how this will play out in public. I'm a bit tired of Whelan to be honest.

Think Moyes gets a lot of credit without actually having won anything. Like 10 years at Everton and not even a League cup.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:22 am
by Forum
scspkr99 wrote:
wub wrote:
Heard Martinez is in the mix as well...
I think Martinez could be a decent manager but I hate to think how this will play out in public. I'm a bit tired of Whelan to be honest.

Think Moyes gets a lot of credit without actually having won anything. Like 10 years at Everton and not even a League cup.
How many clubs outside the big boys have won anything in that time?

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:24 am
by magma
Am I the only Gooner that really likes 'Arry? Sad to see him go... even if they were creeping up behind us, it was great to see such a positive side breaking through. It'll actually be a bit disappointing if they don't hold onto their stars... the competition in North London has been brilliant again for the last couple of years.

Martinez and Moyes are both decent managers, but Redknapp really suited Spurs. I'd take Martinez over Moyes...

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:30 am
by scspkr99
southstar wrote:How many clubs outside the big boys have won anything in that time?
Portsmouth won the FA cup, Southampton Millwall WHU and Everton and Cardiff are amongst the runners up. Birmingham Boro and Blackburn Rovers have won the league cup Everton haven't made a final.

The top teams are stronger and I'm not suggesting Moyes has done a bad job I just don't know that it warrants the kind of praise he gets.

It's the equivalent of the telegram from the queen on your 100th birthday, congratulations on not being dead / sacked.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:31 am
by scspkr99
magma wrote:Am I the only Gooner that really likes 'Arry? Sad to see him go... even if they were creeping up behind us, it was great to see such a positive side breaking through. It'll actually be a bit disappointing if they don't hold onto their stars... the competition in North London has been brilliant again for the last couple of years.

Martinez and Moyes are both decent managers, but Redknapp really suited Spurs. I'd take Martinez over Moyes...
He's a bit corrupt though eh.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 am
by Forum
Based on their spending Everton deserve to get relegated every season but somehow they always seem to finish in the top 10, Moyes has to get most of the credit for that

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:48 am
by magma
scspkr99 wrote:
magma wrote:Am I the only Gooner that really likes 'Arry? Sad to see him go... even if they were creeping up behind us, it was great to see such a positive side breaking through. It'll actually be a bit disappointing if they don't hold onto their stars... the competition in North London has been brilliant again for the last couple of years.

Martinez and Moyes are both decent managers, but Redknapp really suited Spurs. I'd take Martinez over Moyes...
He's a bit corrupt though eh.
Who isn't? Most professional sports are only a few marked bills short of a racket at the best of times.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:49 am
by scspkr99
southstar wrote:Based on their spending Everton deserve to get relegated every season but somehow they always seem to finish in the top 10, Moyes has to get most of the credit for that
That's not really true though, it has been more so lately but Fellani cost 15m Yakubu was 10m they spent on Jagielka, Howard, Neville. This idea that they havn't spent money forgets that they were spending before 2010.

I'm not saying he's a bad manager just that he hasn't done much to earn the kind of praise that he's gotten.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:17 am
by PinUp
If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:11 pm
by Liam92
PinUp wrote:If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.
What makes you think that?

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:21 pm
by PinUp
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.
What makes you think that?
Just don't think they are up to the standard of the top half of the premier league plus the travelling to away games would be ridiculous, this might make Celtic Park a fortress though.

Maybe not one season but i think they would struggle

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:28 pm
by Liam92
PinUp wrote:
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.
What makes you think that?
Just don't think they are up to the standard of the top half of the premier league plus the travelling to away games would be ridiculous, this might make Celtic Park a fortress though.

Maybe not one season but i think they would struggle
You need to remember that coming upto the premiership we would be getting more revenue from that and would therefore have a higher standard of players and with our fanbase I have no idea what would happen, we could end up in the top 10 with a number of seasons or we could end up relegated straight away, who knows.

As much as I'd like to join the premiership and compete at a much higher level every week, as has been said previously, it doesn't really make sense nor is it fair for us to worm our way into the premiership.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:30 pm
by PinUp
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.
What makes you think that?
Just don't think they are up to the standard of the top half of the premier league plus the travelling to away games would be ridiculous, this might make Celtic Park a fortress though.

Maybe not one season but i think they would struggle
You need to remember that coming upto the premiership we would be getting more revenue from that and would therefore have a higher standard of players and with our fanbase I have no idea what would happen, we could end up in the top 10 with a number of seasons or we could end up relegated straight away, who knows.

As much as I'd like to join the premiership and compete at a much higher level every week, as has been said previously, it doesn't really make sense nor is it fair for us to worm our way into the premiership.
All fair points!

Fair play to celtic anyway, gonna absolutely boss the SPL for the foreseeable future now!

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 pm
by Liam92
PinUp wrote:
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:
Liam92 wrote:
PinUp wrote:If celtic joined the Premiership they would get relegated after 1 season.
What makes you think that?
Just don't think they are up to the standard of the top half of the premier league plus the travelling to away games would be ridiculous, this might make Celtic Park a fortress though.

Maybe not one season but i think they would struggle
You need to remember that coming upto the premiership we would be getting more revenue from that and would therefore have a higher standard of players and with our fanbase I have no idea what would happen, we could end up in the top 10 with a number of seasons or we could end up relegated straight away, who knows.

As much as I'd like to join the premiership and compete at a much higher level every week, as has been said previously, it doesn't really make sense nor is it fair for us to worm our way into the premiership.
All fair points!

Fair play to celtic anyway, gonna absolutely boss the SPL for the foreseeable future now!
I highly doubt that Rangers won't get voted back into the SPL. If they do start from the third division, I will be worried about our Sky deal and it could make it even worse for hanging onto/signing players. Again, I have no idea what will happen to Celtic if Rangers are no longer in the SPL, a lot of people saying we will die too, but really can't say until it happens.

For the next few days I shall continue absolutely pissing myself :cornlol:

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:11 pm
by ehbes
If te rangers are in third division the entire league will suffer.. Less competition will mean clubs won't be as driven to bring in new players. Celtic are the only club who could benefit from it

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:42 pm
by hutyluty
ehbrums1 wrote:If te rangers are in third division the entire league will suffer.. Less competition will mean clubs won't be as driven to bring in new players. Celtic are the only club who could benefit from it
well that and the fact that everyone'll lose half their income. Scottish football is dead, has been since setanta went bust.

PinUp wrote:Just don't think they are up to the standard of the top half of the premier league plus the travelling to away games would be ridiculous, this might make Celtic Park a fortress though.
It's only an extra hour further than Newcastle, not really a big deal. They'd go down because the team is rubbish. The fact that Gary Hooper leads the line for them says a lot.