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bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

i think you are delirious about parson, and what if i go after magma, what that means and how does that make anything i said less true?

It makes it less true because debates don't get personal unless you are involved.

I was pointing this out because you talk down to everyone else yet everything you say which is negative about others is chiefly what is negative in yourself.

so me hunting down magma for fun makes all the debates here personal!
shit man, i'm a whore in the church choir!
whatever you say man and doesn't contradict the fact that i'm correct in what i say!

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

i think you are delirious about parson, and what if i go after magma, what that means and how does that make anything i said less true?

It makes it less true because debates don't get personal unless you are involved.

I was pointing this out because you talk down to everyone else yet everything you say which is negative about others is chiefly what is negative in yourself.

so me hunting down magma for fun makes all the debates here personal!
shit man, i'm a whore in the church choir!
whatever you say man and doesn't contradict the fact that i'm correct in what i say!

All the debates in here aren't personal, just the ones you are in. I have already said this several times.

and now you're backing down, making jokes and using the 'whatever' response because you don't know where to turn.

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

i think you are delirious about parson, and what if i go after magma, what that means and how does that make anything i said less true?

It makes it less true because debates don't get personal unless you are involved.

I was pointing this out because you talk down to everyone else yet everything you say which is negative about others is chiefly what is negative in yourself.

so me hunting down magma for fun makes all the debates here personal!
shit man, i'm a whore in the church choir!
whatever you say man and doesn't contradict the fact that i'm correct in what i say!

All the debates in here aren't personal, just the ones you are in. I have already said this several times.

and now you're backing down, making jokes and using the 'whatever' response because you don't know where to turn.

why should i turn anywhere dickhead?
do you think what happens here means anything and you're doing anything to me now?
take some fresh air or some laughing gas dude, it's internet, i can shut your foaming mouth with a click and so can you
jeeez, and then you complain you're talked down

I know it's only the internet etc but you clearly don't. Look at this frenzied reaction.

Chill out man.

bandshell wrote:I know it's only the internet etc but you clearly don't. Look at this frenzied reaction.

Chill out man.

)

you're a dreamer

I'm a dream warrior.

bandshell wrote:I'm a dream warrior.

acting a bit like don quijote

bandshell wrote:

kay wrote:Naw, I never try to be deliberately cryptic. Just thinking out loud as it were. Plus I just woke up. Also, I *am* as clueless as the rest of everyone. I generally don't assume I come from a position of "rightness" when I'm discussing (not arguing) about something I'm not certain about.

You asked how you'd know what the original reality looked like in response to what AP said. My response was that in this scenario you're never sure what the original reality looks like, because what you imagine to be the original reality may not be the original reality but yet another reflection. And so on. So you keep searching for the original reality, with the hope that it becomes more truthful at every step of the way.

ha shit sorry kay, I thought it was pimp who had said that and was answering as if it were him who had used that as an answer. I have no problem with you whatsoever.

I was wondering where that'd come from lol

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:I'm a dream warrior.

acting a bit like don quijote

jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

yeah, maybe there is only one side that can be right, but right now we dont have the proof for which side it is, hence 'theoretical'; so therefore this debate isnt an exercise in proving everyone wrong but to try and gain more personal understanding of the different possibilities

it isnt about hurting pussies, that seems to be a rather agressive way to approach a discussion on the possible theories about how our universe works

Alien pimp was hurting bad after this.

ahier wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

yeah, maybe there is only one side that can be right, but right now we dont have the proof for which side it is, hence 'theoretical'; so therefore this debate isnt an exercise in proving everyone wrong but to try and gain more personal understanding of the different possibilities

it isnt about hurting pussies, that seems to be a rather agressive way to approach a discussion on the possible theories about how our universe works

that's correct, except when time is by definition something that doesn't exist except as a concept
then it's really easy to be sure on yourself and twist people's mind to expose their arrogant superficiality hidden behind the mature pose

the fact that people feel aggressed by truth again and call it aggression it's not my problem either
the hypocrisy might be though and even some lies told exactly to win a battle that's personal for some, instead of idea battle
like the one bandshell started generalizing my shit with magma

so yeah, a lot of pussies hurt by truth and using all sorts of tricks and personal attacks because they can't debate ideas, only persons, and also because pussies have no balls
and i'm ready for them all after they shower

PS: I bolded that part because i like it and i have many posts along the line
it's just wasted here, most people are here to prove themselves
i see i'm not ever gonna win a popularity contest, i'm just gonna lose some for my shit, but it's the right shit and my attitude proves i care more about that than being cool in front of you
not my fault you are weak and you turn every debate you can't hold in a thread about my person in order to draw a curtain over your own fails

so you can bitch or you can tell me how does exist a point in a dimension that by definition doesn't exist anymore or never existed

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

yeah, maybe there is only one side that can be right, but right now we dont have the proof for which side it is, hence 'theoretical'; so therefore this debate isnt an exercise in proving everyone wrong but to try and gain more personal understanding of the different possibilities

it isnt about hurting pussies, that seems to be a rather agressive way to approach a discussion on the possible theories about how our universe works

that's correct, except when time is by definition something that doesn't exist except as a concept
then it's really easy to be sure on yourself and twist people's mind to expose their arrogant superficiality hidden behind the mature pose

the fact that people feel aggressed by truth again and call it aggression it's not my problem either
the hypocrisy might be though and even some lies told exactly to win a battle that's personal for some, instead of idea battle
like the one bandshell started generalizing my shit with magma

so yeah, a lot of pussies hurt by truth and using all sorts of tricks and personal attacks because they can't debate ideas, only persons, and also because pussies have no balls
and i'm ready for them all after they shower

You stopped looking for the truth once you got your head far enough up your ass.

alien pimp wrote:so you can bitch or you can tell me how does exist a point in a dimension that by definition doesn't exist anymore or never existed

Go and pass high school physics. Then get a degree in Physics. Stay on for your Masters. Then get a PHD in physics. Do 10 years or so research and "original thinking" and come back with the answer... thousands of years of human research and development hasn't cracked this stuff yet. That's why it's still a debate.

Don't come on here acting like you know any more than the rest of us amateurs about this kind of stuff... or am I missing a PHD from Oxford that you're hiding away?

Just because YOU believe something, doesn't make it necessarily true and issues like this that haven't even been resolved by the greatest minds on the planet sure as hell don't have "CORRECT" answers yet.

Get over yourself and stop making every disagreement you have personal... nobody else around here feels the need to do it.

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

yeah, maybe there is only one side that can be right, but right now we dont have the proof for which side it is, hence 'theoretical'; so therefore this debate isnt an exercise in proving everyone wrong but to try and gain more personal understanding of the different possibilities

it isnt about hurting pussies, that seems to be a rather agressive way to approach a discussion on the possible theories about how our universe works

that's correct, except when time is by definition something that doesn't exist except as a concept
then it's really easy to be sure on yourself and twist people's mind to expose their arrogant superficiality hidden behind the mature pose

the fact that people feel aggressed by truth again and call it aggression it's not my problem either
the hypocrisy might be though and even some lies told exactly to win a battle that's personal for some, instead of idea battle
like the one bandshell started generalizing my shit with magma

so yeah, a lot of pussies hurt by truth and using all sorts of tricks and personal attacks because they can't debate ideas, only persons, and also because pussies have no balls
and i'm ready for them all after they shower

You stopped looking for the truth once you got your head far enough up your ass.

jokes don't stand in the same balance with truth
so in the joke category you can be the winner if you want, the rest is mine, deserved because i bothered to put effort into learning to think correctly

magma wrote:

alien pimp wrote:so you can bitch or you can tell me how does exist a point in a dimension that by definition doesn't exist anymore or never existed

Go and pass high school physics. Then get a degree in Physics. Stay on for your Masters. Then get a PHD in physics. Do 10 years or so research and "original thinking" and come back with the answer... thousands of years of human research and development hasn't cracked this stuff yet. That's why it's still a debate.

Don't come on here acting like you know any more than the rest of us amateurs about this kind of stuff... or am I missing a PHD from Oxford that you're hiding away?

Just because YOU believe something, doesn't make it necessarily true and issues like this that haven't even been resolved by the greatest minds on the planet sure as hell don't have "CORRECT" answers yet.

Get over yourself and stop making every disagreement you have personal... nobody else around here feels the need to do it.

who else is boring today?

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

ahier wrote:jeeeeeeeeeeeeez if there wasnt so many little personal digs and bickering, this would have made a far better read than it was

very interesting points made by all though, some people seem to be far too concerned with their own ideas to even consider taking in other peoples points of view, the fact that this is deep into the realms of theoretical physics/bordering on philosophy kinda indicates that noone is totally right and everyone has something to offer on the subject

more love and friendly chats please

(and yeah i know i jumped in rather late to say this)

2 seconds of reason are much more than you need to realize in a debate if something exists always one side and one side only is right. because there are only 2 answer options for such a question and one of them excludes the other.

and if you take 4 seconds out of your time to think about it you'll be ahead of everyone here

this is not arguing, it's pure truth, and, as always with truth, it will hurt some pussies, i hope not you

yeah, maybe there is only one side that can be right, but right now we dont have the proof for which side it is, hence 'theoretical'; so therefore this debate isnt an exercise in proving everyone wrong but to try and gain more personal understanding of the different possibilities

it isnt about hurting pussies, that seems to be a rather agressive way to approach a discussion on the possible theories about how our universe works

that's correct, except when time is by definition something that doesn't exist except as a concept
then it's really easy to be sure on yourself and twist people's mind to expose their arrogant superficiality hidden behind the mature pose

the fact that people feel aggressed by truth again and call it aggression it's not my problem either
the hypocrisy might be though and even some lies told exactly to win a battle that's personal for some, instead of idea battle
like the one bandshell started generalizing my shit with magma

so yeah, a lot of pussies hurt by truth and using all sorts of tricks and personal attacks because they can't debate ideas, only persons, and also because pussies have no balls
and i'm ready for them all after they shower

PS: I bolded that part because i like it and i have many posts along the line
it's just wasted here, most people are here to prove themselves
i see i'm not ever gonna win a popularity contest, i'm just gonna lose some for my shit, but it's the right shit and my attitude proves i care more about that than being cool in front of you
not my fault you are weak and you turn every debate you can't hold in a thread about my person in order to draw a curtain over your own fails

but surely if you delivered these truths in a reasonable manner without bashing everyone elses input then a lot more people would take on board what you are saying instead of creating all the aggression and pettiness in this thread? dont get me wrong im not saying you are the only person to do this, and if you didnt then doubtless there would be others that did, but the aggressive delivery kinda obscures the fact that what you are saying has some interesting points in.

(im assuming the bit about the weakness and drawing a curtain over my own fails isnt against me, as ive only just joined this thread and havent really contributed much yet)

although, now you say it, you have a point in that i often try and make reasonable, level headed responses to these kinda threads and noone remembers who i am, and most people round here know of you and your opinions on things, maybe i should try the aggressive approach sometime

oh yeah, and in regards to the actual subject, i cant claim to know enough about the accurate definition of time, but i don't think it can be said that there is a 100% conclusive meaning; this kind of science is not fact although i am sure it must be mistaken for it sometimes, but the fact that not all of the science world agrees on one thing indicates that there is no real answer as of yet