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cyrusfx wrote:

fractal wrote:Pop isn't a bad thing, it's just like all other music, some good some bad... I love Micheal Jackson, don't you? Hating on pop is such a silly way to be "underground" and "cool".

I disagree. MJ being one of a handful of exceptions, "Pop" is inherently unoriginal and follows pre-established formulas to produce an unoffensive sound that is easy for anybody to follow. Usually this means it is without risk and basically uninteresting to me as I like hearing real creativity that is unbounded by pop's many constraints.

And in many cases, Pop is in fact cheesy and non-genuine, because the ultimate motivation for production of said music is to make money -- integrity and originality be damned. Even if it means exploiting fads, people's weaknesses and/or urgency to belong to something, the profiteer only cares about $$$ at the end of the day.

Cheesy pop music might not be as overbearing in your everyday existence as it is in mine but it should bug any serious music fan that hundreds of millions of people are all into the same handful of artists at any given moment. There is more music available for the listening than ever, yet the amount of artists in mainstream rotation remain at about the same number as they did in the 1950s.

This is because advertising only works via repetition and basically brainwashing, and this is why "pop" music stations play the same 10-15 songs over and over and over and over for weeks, months, years on end, slowly rotating out other tracks for similar sounding new ones. The tracks themselves are usually quite repetitive and take advantage of current trends to make feel people comfortable by hearing something they are familiar with. They also mix well into commercials for minimal brain stimulation.

For ME (notice the preface), "Sexy Back" is 100% one of these tunes. I find this unforgiveable because I feel they are basically trying to hand me a shit sandwich whilst telling me its actually a rose... Just take a whiff of the artificial scent on top of this heap and you'll find life is easier... Cannot get into it, and makes me lose a whole lot of respect for the man.

pkay wrote:
You're confusing top 40 with pop music.

You seem burnt on what has become top 40 music, which at any given time can be rock, hip hop, rap, or pop music.

fractal wrote:To be fair, I felt the same way cyrusfx did when I was 17 or so, I even had the gall to believe that there is a difference between hip hop and rap...

fractal wrote:
Now I can just enjoy music for music without worrying about anything beyond whether I like the way it sounds or not.

Reverb wrote:sexy back is a tune and you all know it

Shum wrote:or as the man himself would put it; all other pop producers sound like Timbaland.