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guys even if you don't care about politics - this is mad to watch...

it's live history

Also live up BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

Its very odd now... spilt 50/50

apmje wrote:Also live up BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

i think same pictures as aljazeera - i think they got it from al jazeera,

holy fuckig shit - the pro mubarak thugs are throwing anything from the top of the buildings to the demonstrators

this place must be hell

vulvavibration wrote:holy fuckig shit - the pro mubarak thugs are throwing anything from the top of the buildings to the demonstrators
this place must be hell

Fire extinguishers?

I don't know what's worse, the ideaology deflating as Mubarak is allowed until September to sort out his pars and quietly leave or the unbridled chaos (not to mention open door for foreign governmental meddling) that would follow a straight revolutionary ousting

either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

lloydnoise wrote: either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

yeah that'd be awful. I'd be well pissed off

Why can't they write stern letters.

They've just had net connectivity restored in Cairo, although the curfew is still in place from 1300GMT.

wub wrote:They've just had net connectivity restored in Cairo, although the curfew is still in place from 1300GMT.

1400 GMT

lloydnoise wrote:I don't know what's worse, the ideaology deflating as Mubarak is allowed until September to sort out his pars and quietly leave or the unbridled chaos (not to mention open door for foreign governmental meddling) that would follow a straight revolutionary ousting

either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

I'd be more concerned with the fact all this was started by the Muslim Brotherhood which will likely gain a lot in the political landscape of Egypt driving back human rights in Egypt decades.

This is why 19 year olds on twitter and facebook are fucking morons no matter what country they're in. They'll protest anything if their friends are showing up.

pkay wrote:

lloydnoise wrote:I don't know what's worse, the ideaology deflating as Mubarak is allowed until September to sort out his pars and quietly leave or the unbridled chaos (not to mention open door for foreign governmental meddling) that would follow a straight revolutionary ousting

either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

I'd be more concerned with the fact all this was started by the Muslim Brotherhood which will likely gain a lot in the political landscape of Egypt driving back human rights in Egypt decades.

This is why 19 year olds on twitter and facebook are fucking morons no matter what country they're in. They'll protest anything if their friends are showing up.

bullshit.

that is not at all true

vulvavibration wrote:

wub wrote:They've just had net connectivity restored in Cairo, although the curfew is still in place from 1300GMT.

1400 GMT

The email I've just from my team in Cairo said 1300, skiving bastards!

^^^
where's your evidence/sources for this??

i missed out on about 3 days of news before i started taking note, is that generally well held then, that it was started by Muslim Brotherhood?

vulvavibration wrote:

pkay wrote:

lloydnoise wrote:I don't know what's worse, the ideaology deflating as Mubarak is allowed until September to sort out his pars and quietly leave or the unbridled chaos (not to mention open door for foreign governmental meddling) that would follow a straight revolutionary ousting

either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

I'd be more concerned with the fact all this was started by the Muslim Brotherhood which will likely gain a lot in the political landscape of Egypt driving back human rights in Egypt decades.

This is why 19 year olds on twitter and facebook are fucking morons no matter what country they're in. They'll protest anything if their friends are showing up.

bullshit.

that is not at all true

If you think the Muslim Brotherhood didn't stoke this fire with all their might you're in fucking denial and need to stop watching al jazeera with the audio on.

If you support the Muslim Brotherhood as a political entity then you are simply a bad human being. Religion has no place in the ruling of human beings in the 21st century.... especially in a country as progressive as Egypt.

The pyramids gonna be safe?

noam wrote:^^^
where's your evidence/sources for this??

i missed out on about 3 days of news before i started taking note, is that generally well held then, that it was started by Muslim Brotherhood?

not true i was following this on different sources mainly al jazeera & bbc.
and from the beginning on the muslim brotherhood even took some distance from the protests as telling that they did not initate them but do support the movement which isreasonable imho.

then - i'm not a friend of the muslim brotherhood, but they said clearly wanting a democracy and democatic votes.
also they are indeed religiously driven but they are clearly NOT islamists. they are of course conservatives but it's not near a taliban-like party.

noam wrote:^^^
where's your evidence/sources for this??

i missed out on about 3 days of news before i started taking note, is that generally well held then, that it was started by Muslim Brotherhood?

The Muslim Brotherhood is the main opposition claiming voter fraud/puppet regime as they lost a lot of power in Egypt over the last election.

They have the most to gain from political chaos in Egypt.

pkay wrote:

vulvavibration wrote:

pkay wrote:

lloydnoise wrote:I don't know what's worse, the ideaology deflating as Mubarak is allowed until September to sort out his pars and quietly leave or the unbridled chaos (not to mention open door for foreign governmental meddling) that would follow a straight revolutionary ousting

either way, I feel for anyone living in the midsts of this madness right now

I'd be more concerned with the fact all this was started by the Muslim Brotherhood which will likely gain a lot in the political landscape of Egypt driving back human rights in Egypt decades.

This is why 19 year olds on twitter and facebook are fucking morons no matter what country they're in. They'll protest anything if their friends are showing up.

bullshit.

that is not at all true

If you think the Muslim Brotherhood didn't stoke this fire with all their might you're in fucking denial and need to stop watching al jazeera with the audio on.

If you support the Muslim Brotherhood as a political entity then you are simply a bad human being. Religion has no place in the ruling of human beings in the 21st century.... especially in a country as progressive as Egypt.

haha?!

switzerland (genrally seen as one of the most democratic countries) has religious parties (christians)

almost every western country has catholic/protestant parties.

vulvavibration wrote:

noam wrote:^^^
where's your evidence/sources for this??

i missed out on about 3 days of news before i started taking note, is that generally well held then, that it was started by Muslim Brotherhood?

not true i was following this on different sources mainly al jazeera & bbc.
and from the beginning on the muslim brotherhood even took some distance from the protests as telling that they did not initate them but do support the movement which isreasonable imho.

then - i'm not a friend of the muslim brotherhood, but they said clearly wanting a democracy and democatic votes.
also they are indeed religiously driven but they are clearly NOT islamists. they are of course conservatives but it's not near a taliban-like party.

ahhh a politician told you something and you believed them. mistake

religion has no place in political rule. you cannot justify this, make this sound pretty, or less severe. It has been the source of suffering in this world for thousands of years.