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Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:11 am**

twilitez wrote:
SCope13 wrote:Nah, the state is pretty fucking evil lol. That being said, I think anarcho-capitalism is insanely contradictory. How are you going to enforce the private property rights ancaps love so much without a state?
I prefer Preudhon's stance on this. Property is both theft and freedom.

I'm not too well versed on Mutualism tbh. But yeah Proudhon has some good stuff. I'm more of a Kropotkin guy though.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:22 am**

I might be interpreting it wrong but the basic idea seems to be that property that is somehow 'handed over' by an institution or inherited is a form of theft, but it is also freedom if were talking about things you produce yourself, as a craftsman of sorts, or building your own house.. you get the idea. Basically real property should always be something directly related to the person and not something arbritrary. In that light the decline/ destruction of craftsmanship, general skillsets and overall autonomy/ independence among people in the 'developed world' is kind of alarming.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:34 am**

Look, I have two daughters, virgins both of them. Let me bring them out to you and you could do what you like with them. But do nothing to these men because they have come under the shelter of my roof.

No man whose testicles have been crushed or whose organ has been cut off may become a member of the Assembly of God.

Whoever utters the name of the Lord must be put to death. The whole community must stone him, whether alien or native. If he utters the name, he must be put to death.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:03 am**

Seeing stories like this reminds me of how silly some people are
http://www.7daysindubai.com/Police-say- ... story.html

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:01 am**

XD

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:27 pm**

bur what if they use fruityloops

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:30 pm**

Reverb wrote:bur what if they use fruityloops

then they are worthless fundie scum

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:30 pm**

chekov wrote:
Reverb wrote:bur what if they use fruityloops
then they are worthless fundie scum

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:41 pm**

neonmansion wrote:There are way too many shitty responses for me to address. Glad to see that my comment elicits such vitriol. I can't help but find it remarkable that none of you can actually engage in serious thought whatsoever.

That would be 5 posts between your last post and this one, one of them was

another post so doesn't really warrant a response despite me agreeing with it.

So that's 4 posts, now tell me why you are being evasive.

neonmansion wrote: Think about it. All i have done was call a certain belief ignorant and irrational and I've been personally attacked what like 10 times in one page? I mean I understand how the internet works and I have a thick enough skin. Most of it is nothing but noise. But to the people that claim atheists, scientific thinking, secularism is equatable to religious thinking and supernatural claims I have one question. What are you smoking? I mean how can you be so smart yet so incredibly dense???

What is it about atheism (the lack of theism) ((theism: the belief in an INTERVENING God))?? what is it about the requirement for objective evidence for peoples claims? What is it about science, logic, reason, and secular thinking that you find so repulsive?? So repulsive that you lump it in with suicide bombers and Crusaders? How can you be so obtuse?

You're grandstanding making references to positions that there is no evidence for.

You're not being attacked because your an atheist you're being asked to present better arguments.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:46 pm**

scspkr99 wrote: You're not being attacked because your an atheist you're being asked to present better arguments.

OK so 90% of that was pointless focusing on details and general attacks so I'll focus on the 10% that had some merit.

I'm supposed to provide evidence for my atheist position?? Are you ok? I mean perhaps you need to take a multi-vitamin? Athiest is the lack of thiesm. LACK of theism. YOU are the one that needs to provide evidence. How hard is this to get!

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:56 pm**

nobody's saying atheism is necessarily wrong

just that you're a doylem for arguing for it in this way

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:58 pm**

on the other hand

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:13 pm**

neonmansion wrote:
scspkr99 wrote: You're not being attacked because your an atheist you're being asked to present better arguments.
OK so 90% of that was pointless focusing on details and general attacks so I'll focus on the 10% that had some merit.

I'm supposed to provide evidence for my atheist position?? Are you ok? I mean perhaps you need to take a multi-vitamin? Athiest is the lack of thiesm. LACK of theism. YOU are the one that needs to provide evidence. How hard is this to get!

nice selective edit just as you selectively swerved the last post asking you think about what you are trying to achieve.

I've not contended that there is no God so I don't have any evidence to make, what I would suggest though is that if I offered evidence it'd be accurate.

You're looking for an argument but arguing with you is of no benefit to anyone, you're not interested in an actual discussion you want to call people and that's a bit too immature for my tastes.

I'm done here.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:26 pm**

your an idiot. i wish there were more to it. but there isn't. go on now.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:51 pm**

you're

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:53 pm**

touche douche

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:54 pm**

touché

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:00 pm**

yeah i didn't know the alt code grammar izan, tone it down JEEEZUS

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:03 pm**

alt code for an apostrophe?

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:34 pm**

chekov wrote:on the other hand

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