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A lot of love for DMZ but I always found myself drawing for the Deep Medi a whole lot more so gonna have to go that way

deep medi. but really i would have sadi hyperdub if they didint fall off so much

deadly habit wrote:

LumiNiscent wrote:Quite shocking that Hyperdub gets so little love here, my favorite ''dubstep'' label by far

because half their releases including burial weren't dubstep but were crossing genre lines.
ffs burial was originally marketed as garage/2step
it was the same as toasty etc where they were doing something new no one knew what to label.

Yeah but even without Burial Hyperdub should still be on the list. The early Darkstar releases, the early LV releases, Skeng, Kode's own productions, Ikonika...

why's this in the snh

sco wrote:why's this in the snh

Visibility.

Topic matter should dictate where it goes really it's not a big deal just odd that such an obviously dubstep related thread isn't in gd
Toss up between tempa and dmz for a few reasons

Face it, this thread would be shit in general. The only people that know about decent music make it to SNH.

LumiNiscent wrote:

deadly habit wrote:

LumiNiscent wrote:Quite shocking that Hyperdub gets so little love here, my favorite ''dubstep'' label by far

because half their releases including burial weren't dubstep but were crossing genre lines.
ffs burial was originally marketed as garage/2step
it was the same as toasty etc where they were doing something new no one knew what to label.

Yeah but even without Burial Hyperdub should still be on the list. The early Darkstar releases, the early LV releases, Skeng, Kode's own productions, Ikonika...

If that's the case then Planet Mu would count too in spite of covering a wide gamut of genres.

planet mu didn't start out as a dubstep label tho. and they haven't released a dubstep record in years.
released shitloads of classics during their 5 year stint with the genre tho

^100%

ultraspatial wrote:planet mu didn't start out as a dubstep label tho. and they haven't released a dubstep record in years.
released shitloads of classics during their 5 year stint with the genre tho

Tempa didn't start out as a dubstep label either, nor Hyperdub

deadly habit wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:planet mu didn't start out as a dubstep label tho. and they haven't released a dubstep record in years.
released shitloads of classics during their 5 year stint with the genre tho

Tempa didn't start out as a dubstep label either, nor Hyperdub

It's not so much that Planet Mu didn't 'start' as a dubstep label, it's that it's just one of the many styles that it was home to. It was still doing breakcore (well until I think.. 2008? with that Teknoist/Dolphin split, not counting VSnares), acid, drum & bass, techno and a whole bunch of other shit while it was releasing dubstep. Dubstep was just its main focus for some time because that's what was selling and what Mike P was excited about at the time. But still, a lot of the dubstep released on the label was quite niche and fit in with what Planet Mu fans were into (Milanese, Ital Tek and Boxcutter aren't your average dubstep producers and had a lot of crossover appeal to breakcore fans). Calling it a breakcore, or dubstep, or whathaveyou label is a bit of a misnomer. Planet Mu is just about releasing what's hot and exciting to Mike P, and that's rarely just one thing. I wouldn't really place it against other dubstep labels for comparison.

Tempa not having started as a dubstep label is totally debatable. It all depends on where you choose to draw the arbitrary line between 'dubsteppy garage' and 'garagey dubstep'. I'd feel quite comfortable calling the first Tempa releases from Horsepower 'dubstep', but even if their releases weren't straight up dubstep, Tempa has been so formative of dubstep with its releases that it doesn't even matter.

Early hyperdub was Kode9, Pressure and Burial. Doesn't matter what Burial was marketed as, his shit sounded what dubstep sounded like in the early part of the century. Dark atmospheres, aggressive but steppy drums. Same shit with Tempa, it all depends on where you decide to draw the arbitrary line and like Tempa, the early releases shaped what we call dubstep now. Hyperdub having strayed somewhat from dubstep in recent years should be irrelevant given that music as a whole strayed away from it.

what gene said