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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:13 pm
by paravrais
futures_untold wrote:Serox wrote:nowaysj wrote:I'd rather listen to Clipz, Rusko and The Prodigy before listening to Skream & Digital Mytikz.
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are you mad?
Skream and DMZ are on another level compared to Rusko man.
Perhaps, but my preference is still for some artists over others.
Taking live music as an example.
I love the occassional burst of ska or blues, but you wouldn't catch me ever listening to Cajun music...! There are similarities between them I'm sure, and some Cajun is far more complex than ska, but my preferences remain.
I'm not mad, I just know what music floats my boat and what doesn't. Taking the entire output of each artist, I enjoy the work of Clipz et al over Skream and Digital Mystikz.
If we were to get specific, I'd choose Skream over Clipz, but I'd choose all three of the artists everyone loves to hate over Digital Mystikz..... Their music simply doesn't spank my monkey if ya know what I mean!
Rusko and the Prodigy are both fucking prime artists (also both have constantly changed their sound since they started releasing stuff). Never heard a Clipz song that I've been able to listen to the whole way through without having to switch it off but meh. I don't get people who hate artists and music just because they are a bit more mainstream or whatever. I'm not a massive fan of skream, he makes some massive tunes but out of everything I've heard by him I probably only like 1 out of every 15 tracks. Besides, I've always thought Skream was more mainstream than Rusko, why doesn't everyone hate him?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:35 pm
by futures_untold
paravrais wrote:I've always thought Skream was more mainstream than Rusko, why doesn't everyone hate him?
qft!
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:39 pm
by ketamine
nowaysj wrote:People are hating on Rusko because they perceive him to be cheap and disposable.
(Upcoming Producers) hate on Rusko, because he accomplishes what they wish to, with ease, and churns out records making them feel like they'll never catch up. They're hating on success, and Synth patches they can't make.
(Fans/DJs) are not hating on Rusko, as evidenced by his non-stop gigs and non-stop records sales.
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Personally, I love Rusko's music.
He's my fav Dubstep producer along with Bar 9. And truth be told, hate or not, his "disposable" records send the dance floor OFF every time they drop.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:51 pm
by Pallms
Each producer has a different style, that's a fact. If all producers had the same style, dubstep would be pretty boring. There is no reason to hate on any producer... they are doing their own thing just like the rest of us. If you dislike their music, that's fine, but it doesn't mean they are a bad producer because of it.
And for everyone saying Rusko is "mainstream" or whatever, he really isn't. He is successful, but far form a household name like many other artists in other genres are. Dubstep on a whole is still fairly underground, there really aren't any "mainstream" or excessively popular artists. Not that being mainstream is a bad thing, just saying.
I love Rusko's tunes, but I also love 90% of the other dubstep tunes I hear. And anyone who has seen Rusko perform knows that he has great character behind the decks and his tunes make the club go crazy!
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:27 pm
by moodee
Looks like common sense is growing with the pages is this thread. Amen to that.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:49 pm
by dj vision
i think people just hate on Rusko because of his use of similar sounds in multiple tunes, but to me that just shows he has a certain style and he wants it to come out in all his songs, like, you hear a certain sound and you know its Rusko
granted, i think hes made his fair share of shit tunes, mostly remixes, but i still love alot of his stuff
another reason people hate on him is his i guess happier more accessible style, which i guess you could say has a mainstream sound to it, but nonetheless he is a solid producer, if you dont like him, then dont, but dont bash on him
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:52 pm
by arcticsunrise
nowaysj wrote:Dood, was this a thread about the Rusko patch? F if I can remember. But a quick little bit about routing in albino:
This is a test patch to help understand routing.
Okay, set your osc 1 to filter 1 [F1], and osc 2 to filter [F2]. Make sure you turn the oscs on, w/ those little power buttons.
Spread all the way to the left. Vol up on each osc.
Then follow the signal over to the filters on the right (signal flow is like a comic book, upper left, to upper right, to lower left, to lower right).
Okay, turn both of your filters on. I mess this up sometimes, those little power buttons are designed poorly. Make sure they both light up.
Set filter 1 to be a low pass w/ the cutoff around 10 o'clock.
Set filter 2 to be a high pass w/ the cutoff around 1 o'clock.
Make sure the filter balance is in the middle, 12 o'clock.
To the right of the filters, turn vel all the way down.
Turn filter 1 pan to the left, filter pan 2 to the right.
On filter 1, press FX1.
On filter 2, press FX2.
Now down to the bottom left.
Turn FX 1 and 2 off. And in fx 1 and 2, make sure that they are each routed to output, and not another effect.
Now if you play notes, on your left speaker you should hear low notes, and on your right speaker you should hear a higher tone.
Turn on FX 1 and 2. Make sure you do this, again, the power button's suck in albino. Easy to miss that something is turned off.
Press the 1 button - at the top of the fx section you should see an fx chooser drop down then the words "routed to" then another drop down.
choose an effect for 1 and 2, each still routed to output.
Well there it is. That is basic signal flow in albino.
You can do trickier stuff. Like running the filters in series rather than in parallel (harder to do in albino than other synths but still) you keep filter balance at 12 o'clock, and on filter 1 hit the F2 button rather than FX1 , and make sure Filter 2 is on then you run the output of filter2 (FX1+3) in parallel to fx 1 and 3, each of which is then routed to fx 4 which gathers the signal up again, and then is routed out.
This is really basic, but there seemed to be some confusion regarding albino's signal path.
8 fakking pages before a decent actual production answer. applause mate. thumbs up for actually attempting to respond to the op.
seriously a production thread that looks like a page on doa.
i thought i left that shit behind. sorry to sound whingy
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:19 am
by pdomino
to have 2 filters running in series you just need 2 automation paths.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:46 pm
by deamonds
isnt the whole premis (spelling) of dubstep to push you're own idea's & creating you're own spin on things?
or am I just not up on the latest production methods?
next thing you know you'll be wearing headbands & looking like a crackhead
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:06 pm
by serox
nowaysj wrote:
Okay, turn both of your filters on. I mess this up sometimes, those little power buttons are designed poorly. Make sure they both light up.
No shit. I am colour blind and I cannot tell if they are on or off.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:34 pm
by magma
deamonds wrote:isnt the whole premis (spelling) of dubstep to push you're own idea's & creating you're own spin on things?
or am I just not up on the latest production methods?
next thing you know you'll be wearing headbands & looking like a crackhead
Not necessarily... Dubstep is a genre and a community... but I think there are as many people out there trying to "push the envelope" by making more and more hyper tunes for mash up dancefloors as there are those out pushing their creative boundaries.
Neither are really wrong and they're competing with each other less and less too with the Wobblers aligning more and more to the DnB/Club scene and the experimenters getting closer to IDM/Electronica/Techno.
Electronic music can be made for the dancefloor, for home or for that happy crossover of both... I think Rusko makes stuff for the dancefloor and he does it pretty well.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:57 pm
by jobbanaught
Magma wrote:I think Rusko makes stuff for the dancefloor and he does it pretty well.
/thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:57 pm
by tezifon
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:15 pm
by jayou
The fastest way to get no where, in any endeavor, is to stick your head in the sand and not learn anything at all. Might as well stop listening to music if you wanna be "original", otherwise the sounds and beats that you are hearing are gonna influence you, then you won't be original.
Well said.
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:27 pm
by magma
nowaysj wrote:The fastest way to get no where, in any endeavor, is to stick your head in the sand and not learn anything at all. Might as well stop listening to music if you wanna be "original", otherwise the sounds and beats that you are hearing are gonna influence you, then you won't be original.
Bang on. I wonder if anyone ever became an expert violinist by teaching themselves in their bedroom and refusing to ask for advice or have lessons...
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:02 pm
by immortal
Well, Thats was a waste of time reading that.....
Only got 5 pages in before being very bored,still no closer too the point of the thread and (Whether or not they used the search tool,or *gasp* restarted a similar thread because theyre new,who cares????) slightly disheartened by the production part of this forum.
Cant we have a 'bitchin' section??? Be easier....
EDIT: Someone did help the guy out,awesome!
arcticsunrise wrote:nowaysj wrote:Dood, was this a thread about the Rusko patch? F if I can remember. But a quick little bit about routing in albino:
This is a test patch to help understand routing.
Okay, set your osc 1 to filter 1 [F1], and osc 2 to filter [F2]. Make sure you turn the oscs on, w/ those little power buttons.
Spread all the way to the left. Vol up on each osc.
Then follow the signal over to the filters on the right (signal flow is like a comic book, upper left, to upper right, to lower left, to lower right).
Okay, turn both of your filters on. I mess this up sometimes, those little power buttons are designed poorly. Make sure they both light up.
Set filter 1 to be a low pass w/ the cutoff around 10 o'clock.
Set filter 2 to be a high pass w/ the cutoff around 1 o'clock.
Make sure the filter balance is in the middle, 12 o'clock.
To the right of the filters, turn vel all the way down.
Turn filter 1 pan to the left, filter pan 2 to the right.
On filter 1, press FX1.
On filter 2, press FX2.
Now down to the bottom left.
Turn FX 1 and 2 off. And in fx 1 and 2, make sure that they are each routed to output, and not another effect.
Now if you play notes, on your left speaker you should hear low notes, and on your right speaker you should hear a higher tone.
Turn on FX 1 and 2. Make sure you do this, again, the power button's suck in albino. Easy to miss that something is turned off.
Press the 1 button - at the top of the fx section you should see an fx chooser drop down then the words "routed to" then another drop down.
choose an effect for 1 and 2, each still routed to output.
Well there it is. That is basic signal flow in albino.
You can do trickier stuff. Like running the filters in series rather than in parallel (harder to do in albino than other synths but still) you keep filter balance at 12 o'clock, and on filter 1 hit the F2 button rather than FX1 , and make sure Filter 2 is on then you run the output of filter2 (FX1+3) in parallel to fx 1 and 3, each of which is then routed to fx 4 which gathers the signal up again, and then is routed out.
This is really basic, but there seemed to be some confusion regarding albino's signal path.
8 fakking pages before a decent actual production answer. applause mate. thumbs up for actually attempting to respond to the op.
seriously a production thread that looks like a page on doa.
i thought i left that shit behind. sorry to sound whingy
/rant over
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:06 pm
by DZA
And was there any need to bump this ?