Deadly Habit wrote:Surface_Tension wrote:beatlejuice wrote:not being an audiophile or a vinyl fetishist or a scenester, music then, has always been about groove and composition...you know good old musicianship
...its why i can still listen to shit mp3's of rare groove and funk that has absolutely no bass weight and still be blown away
oh and technology. Electronica develops according to technology. I love that from any era, the limits of technology were always pushed to their limits. From kraftwerk and cybotron to reso and distance
apply that to format too and from vinyl to tape to cd to digital. You gotta move with the times
Well if we're being really scientific, Vinyl has stood the test of time, when other more common formats did not. Tapes and CD's are almost a thing of the past. Music delivery is almost entirely digital now, save for vinyl. Vinyl is still alive, and I'm sure people will tell you increasing in popularity among audiophiles. Frankly if you like digital, buy digital. If a label doesn't put out digital, you don't get the tune. Simple as that. We personally sell digital.
If a label is doing it to preserve vinyl culture and they feel that is the right way for them to go, I have no beef with that. More power to ya.
the fact of the matter is that it's up to the consumer like it or not. a vinyl only release will be made available digitally regardless, so the label might as well cash in on it.
I agree, that's why we sell digital as well. To be completely honest though, I'd love to make a release or two down the road vinyl only, and release a few digital only releases as well. I don't like the idea of excluding people, but I do actually value the idea of VIP and limited editions of things for pure unadulterated collectible value.
But we're on the same page here. I think where we differ, is that you think that it's going to somehow change by posting about them not doing the digital sales. At this point, if any label in the game is releasing vinyl only, nothing we could say will change that. This thread has gone on entirely too long.
Should have been two posts long honestly...
1. Isn't it bullshit that some labels sell vinyl only?
2. Yes, it is bullshit but is, indeed, their prerogative. Nothing will change their mind.
There's no real need to debate the effects of low cutting, when most club systems can't handle any serious bass anyway. Even the best dialed in club system doesn't sound as good as any decent studio monitors with a nice powered sub in a small ass studio with a spliff in your hand.
What I think is interesting, is how quick everyone is to jump on anyone who talks about running a label and releasing music as a business, but whenever there is something a label is doing that we don't like, there's the chorus of "oh they aren't making smart business decisions..." or "oh, don't they care about sales?"
at the end of the day, this was several pages of worthless crap including my own input...
There are things that I like about digitally collecting tunes, obviously I can listen to them on my Ipod or use Serato or whatever... but honestly, there are things I love about vinyl that can't be reproduced or simulated by anything else, any other means of delivery. Truth be told, I don't care how someone plays someone elses tunes to make themselves famous. For the record, I'd rather listen to an amazingly extravagant Live set from someone who understands how to deconstruct and reproduce, remix, etc on the fly... at least they are doing something worth taking a look at while you beardstroke.
At the end of the day, you can't see what the DJ is playing with if your eyes are down and you're skanking the fuck out. If the mixing is on point, the EQing is on par, the system is flexing and the crowd is elbow to elbow brocking out, I certainly hope you're not standing there with your thumbs up your ass and hating on what they play with. I know a guy who uses his guitar is a Live controller.
But when it comes to me, and my own personal preference, I love to play vinyl most of all. You do you. Let the labels that don't sell vinyl do them. Send them an email and ask them their position and see if you can change their mind.
at least like a few months later than the vinyl yeesh
