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yeah. i just like the ability to go BBK > Cooly G > Kowton > Sully > Maxwell D > Roska > MJ Cole. And back again.deamonds wrote:Just not really feeling it as much as some of the tougher, more percussive beats. Although I can see why they are so appealing.
been playing a lot of his tunes lately. Especially wookies remix of SincereBlackdown wrote:MJ Cole
Not even broad so much as forward thinking (the clue's in the name I guess). I've heard sets that are all over the shop stylewise but basically pretty predictable, but I've also heard sets that are straight up one style - jungle, say, or techno, but push it further and dig deeper and come out with something really exciting. I guess I kind of like having an envelope to push - it's maybe a bit easy for an 'anything goes' attitude to lead to nothing being suprising any more.Uncle Bill wrote:Yeah, that's spot on. Clubs having a broad approach is key to having a strong music scene.Slothrop wrote:FWD is definitely following the evolution, probably helping to drive it. Most weeks these days you seem to get a bit of funky, a bit of garage, a bit of wonky, a bit of wobble, a bit of undefineable stuff somewhere in the middle... nice trend.su wrote:Agreed. No problem with funky being on offer. But here's my worries: I'm saving up to come to FWD in the near future. Now I tremble. Will it have shut down by then cos all the punters have moved 'next door' to hear Joy Orbison? Or will FWD themselves have changed their sound to prevent that from happening? Or has that already happened and I just don't know sitting here in exile?
Feeling this post. 'Pillhead' music doesn't just have to be jawgrinding aggro stuff..chris deon wrote:...
so why do i only hear hard and rough music when i go to dubstep nights? why not throw in a vocal tune to add some flavour? the oldskool boys did it with no problem. i think that what the heavy-wobble dubstep dj's may be forgetting is that sense of mdma-fueled emotional elevation, the uplifting element of raves. it's fine to rave your tits off to heavy bangers for a while, but the heart of rave music is ecstasy (both the emotion and the drug). so when i hear a tune like 'been here before' like zed bias, and i hear that descending organ bassline drop and the diva vocal sample on top of it, i'm instantly jettisoned back in time to a warehouse in 1991. and as for 'hyph mngo', that track gives me the same feeling.
That's true but I'm talking about clubs not individual DJs. Doesn't mean they shouldn't book DJs who are going really deep into one style. It's just nice to have some variety through the night.Slothrop wrote:Not even broad so much as forward thinking (the clue's in the name I guess). I've heard sets that are all over the shop stylewise but basically pretty predictable, but I've also heard sets that are straight up one style - jungle, say, or techno, but push it further and dig deeper and come out with something really exciting.Uncle Bill wrote:Yeah, that's spot on. Clubs having a broad approach is key to having a strong music scene.Slothrop wrote:FWD is definitely following the evolution, probably helping to drive it. Most weeks these days you seem to get a bit of funky, a bit of garage, a bit of wonky, a bit of wobble, a bit of undefineable stuff somewhere in the middle... nice trend.su wrote:Agreed. No problem with funky being on offer. But here's my worries: I'm saving up to come to FWD in the near future. Now I tremble. Will it have shut down by then cos all the punters have moved 'next door' to hear Joy Orbison? Or will FWD themselves have changed their sound to prevent that from happening? Or has that already happened and I just don't know sitting here in exile?
yeah true man, i tend to just drop it at the first chorus which is kind of a shame cos i really like Rubi's little "the heatwave, dot co dot uk" bit...yea see, i really like that, shame it drops a bit weird
For me the warm glow of house is more like Ron Trent, Moodyman, Kerri Chandler, Nu Groove, Fingers Inc., but maybe it's pointless debating that.Blackdown wrote:sounds like the warm glow of house to me, not the chemical sythnetics of trance...
I really enjoyed your Pitchfork article about Swamp 81. If i'm being so nasty about Joy Orbison, it's simply because I fear that there might soon be no club left for the Swamp 81 sound (or anything in the same radical vein). That it will become too marginal to be played anywhere.Blackdown wrote:i also love dark Swamp 81 halfstep too
the whole article is about different sounds and styles coexisting. its not about the emphasis of one thing over another.su wrote: I really enjoyed your Pitchfork article about Swamp 81. If i'm being so nasty about Joy Orbison, it's simply because I fear that there might soon be no club left for the Swamp 81 sound (or anything in the same radical vein). That it will become too marginal to be played anywhere.
I always forget that before BK was a dancehall don (eternally in sweatpants), he was big in the house world. and a bit of that nyc breakbeat stuff as well... hostile takeover i think was the first 12" on massive B.seckle wrote: Bobby Konders
. Definitely some of my favorite dance music currently.Hi, would you be able to point me a mix to check out?TeReKeTe wrote:
again on the US stuff, Karizma is absolutely blowing me away these days w/ stuff on the my pal joey trip. Super-syncopated, eyes-down-ish detroit styles via baltimore. and mixdowns with WAAAAAY too much bass
WOW never heard this before. Check thisFractal wrote:love this tune!seckle wrote: soho (aka pal joey, aka joey longo from nyc) "hot music"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWMNwJtbt_U
I find this interesting. Especially with that other thread of people going on about The Bug, and some saying The Bug never proclaimed to be dubstep, but has been adopted by the dubstep community. To me, this FlyLo = Dubstep (not saying you said that) connection that I see more and more popped up as soon as Brainfeeder affiliated themselves with Kode 9. Maybe even further back (I know Fly Lo been a fan of Burial from time) Sure it's bass heavy, but (to me) it doesn't resemble nothing that I've heard since getting into the sound, and from listening to his entire catalogue so far a lot of his music goes past 140 bpm.. Maybe that's the point, dubstep can be whatever it wants, but I just found it interesting how somebody who doesn't necessarily sound like what's inside the scene can be adopted so easily, provided their sound moves the audience regardless. What I'm trying to get at is, all these sort of "rules", i.e. "half step, snare on third beat, etc" isn't the real focus. It's the bass that really glues everything together.Uncle Bill wrote:YES.Corpsey wrote:I love you guys
Good thread.
I think it was obviously going to piss people off that dubstep changed from what made it so special in 2005 and yeah a lot of raves now you'll hear wobble wobble wobble all fucking night but when you think about how dubstep started out as a marginal thing you can see a lot more potential in the margins that currently exist on the scene.
What really excites me is the prospect of people making tunes expressly for these DJs that are playing all kinds of stuff - chucking in samples, cheesy pianos/female vocals, garage organ stabs, breakbeats etc.
Also seeing Joker at Brainfeeder play 'Who's Afraid Of Detroit' pitched up massively - in a warehouse. That sense of freedom. Bring back House Party!
There's always more potential in the margins. That's the way music works. The best music I've heard in the last twelve months has been pretty difficult to define: Jamie Vex'd, Zomby, Rustie, Joker, Flylo, Guido, Pinch's 'Midnight Oil', Kode 9's 'Black Sun' etc.
Is this dubstep or something else? I don't know. It sounds like a lot of different ideas being smashed together, the same as my favourite music always does. Does it matter what it's caleld as long as I'm enjoying it? Not really.
, but Groove A K ordingly and Drumz nightmare are just... wicked. I think it's very much the parallel development of this whole UK "dubbage" thing.pal joey is the mannn. "hot music" is like a blueprint in a lot of ways. you can see its influence in daz-i-cue/bugz...you can see its influence in hiphop too. this is bilal doing a cover of it.86 Position wrote:WOW never heard this before. Check thisFractal wrote:love this tune!seckle wrote: soho (aka pal joey, aka joey longo from nyc) "hot music"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWMNwJtbt_U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFbVrdLu00
this was a big tune in Canada
