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Perej wrote:trusta is sooooooo goooodd

vishes wrote:Falty DL said that Mean Streets Part Three will get released at the end of 2012, right? And since 1 was #10 and 2 was #20 I assume that 3 will be #30, so does that mean that we will get another 10 releases before the end of the year?

... Or is that just wishful thinking?

vishes wrote:Falty DL said that Mean Streets Part Three will get released at the end of 2012, right? And since 1 was #10 and 2 was #20 I assume that 3 will be #30, so does that mean that we will get another 10 releases before the end of the year?

... Or is that just wishful thinking?

tobuildahome wrote:

lucid wrote:just started getting the podcasts.... anyone heard that spastik remix before (2nd tune after the boddika bit, with the rolling snares, kicks come in at 4:17)? boddika maybe or is this hush hush...

think it could be this one man:


big mix!

tony031r wrote:

untightled wrote:Falty's first release was 500, so why not continue the Mean Streets sequence by pressing another 500? All other releases are not limited and will continue to get represses if necessary, to paraphrase Loefah in his latest interview.

I can see your point but, there's been been 9 releases since Part 1. Releases which, as Loefah said, sell 2000 copies in a matter of weeks. More people started buying the stuff they put out since, more people got in touch. The demand levels are much higher than they were one year ago. Supplying the same amount of a product on a market that has, if something, doubled...it just won't do.

Not taking the piss, it's Loe's decision how many copies he sends out.
I'm just not feeling it so much if it's all just a matter of who gets to it first or if I have to pay at least 20-30£ extra to some jackal on Discogs.

hookedonsonics wrote:

tony031r wrote:

untightled wrote:Falty's first release was 500, so why not continue the Mean Streets sequence by pressing another 500? All other releases are not limited and will continue to get represses if necessary, to paraphrase Loefah in his latest interview.

I can see your point but, there's been been 9 releases since Part 1. Releases which, as Loefah said, sell 2000 copies in a matter of weeks. More people started buying the stuff they put out since, more people got in touch. The demand levels are much higher than they were one year ago. Supplying the same amount of a product on a market that has, if something, doubled...it just won't do.

Not taking the piss, it's Loe's decision how many copies he sends out.
I'm just not feeling it so much if it's all just a matter of who gets to it first or if I have to pay at least 20-30£ extra to some jackal on Discogs.

I'm 15 pages late, but wanted to emphasize this. The people who suffer most from a 500 copy ltd release which PEOPLE WILL WANT are fans themselves.

Swamp sells out because they put out killer tunes. This is well known and I am all for it because it is a fantastic label which has taken a risk with vinyl releases.

However, I just paid $40 usd for a copy of SUNKLOWUN. my turntables were in storage when it came out, and I did not know that it was limited, so something that I very much wanted to have on wax i waited to buy and eventually had to pay some jerk's hiked price. the label and artists are still getting the same amount of $. but the person who bought it for the purpose of resale (probably 1/4 of those who bought SWAMP020) is making 75% more.*

how does this benefit anyone except for vinyl sellers on discogs
the artists still get their cut, sure. but what advantage does a limited press offer for a release that is going to sell a LOT of copies? why wouldn't you want your fans to have it? why would you want to make them pay more (and give money to re-sellers) for it?
please...somebody explain it to me. I am sure there is a reason.

I guess if you press a small amount and it is guaranteed to sell out then it is a low-risk venture. the profit will be clear right away and you won't have to gauge the time from release to percentage of the pressing sold at all.

I don't really care for that mentality, but I do understand it.

e: before anyone says "they can sell it for that much because you are willing to pay it"... piss off. we shouldn't have to. it should be enough that we are buying the vinyl and not stealing it.

* despite my bitching, i have a copy of Kryptic Minds - Badman on discogs for about $50. why? because i bought it at first, and people can't get it. I have NO IDEA why I deserve $40 more than the artist/label for it, however. that's just what I would part with it for - any less, and I'd rather have it in my collection. but if you are selling BRAND NEW UNPLAYED vinyl on discogs because 1) you sell vinyl for a living and/or 2) you bought it when it was first pressed and you know you can jack the price - come on.

hookedonsonics wrote:

tony031r wrote:

untightled wrote:Falty's first release was 500, so why not continue the Mean Streets sequence by pressing another 500? All other releases are not limited and will continue to get represses if necessary, to paraphrase Loefah in his latest interview.

I can see your point but, there's been been 9 releases since Part 1. Releases which, as Loefah said, sell 2000 copies in a matter of weeks. More people started buying the stuff they put out since, more people got in touch. The demand levels are much higher than they were one year ago. Supplying the same amount of a product on a market that has, if something, doubled...it just won't do.

Not taking the piss, it's Loe's decision how many copies he sends out.
I'm just not feeling it so much if it's all just a matter of who gets to it first or if I have to pay at least 20-30£ extra to some jackal on Discogs.

I'm 15 pages late, but wanted to emphasize this. The people who suffer most from a 500 copy ltd release which PEOPLE WILL WANT are fans themselves.

Swamp sells out because they put out killer tunes. This is well known and I am all for it because it is a fantastic label which has taken a risk with vinyl releases.

However, I just paid $40 usd for a copy of SUNKLOWUN. my turntables were in storage when it came out, and I did not know that it was limited, so something that I very much wanted to have on wax i waited to buy and eventually had to pay some jerk's hiked price. the label and artists are still getting the same amount of $. but the person who bought it for the purpose of resale (probably 1/4 of those who bought SWAMP020) is making 75% more.*

how does this benefit anyone except for vinyl sellers on discogs
the artists still get their cut, sure. but what advantage does a limited press offer for a release that is going to sell a LOT of copies? why wouldn't you want your fans to have it? why would you want to make them pay more (and give money to re-sellers) for it?
please...somebody explain it to me. I am sure there is a reason.

I guess if you press a small amount and it is guaranteed to sell out then it is a low-risk venture. the profit will be clear right away and you won't have to gauge the time from release to percentage of the pressing sold at all.

I don't really care for that mentality, but I do understand it.

Shum wrote:whoah! your name is green now fractal.

edit: or was it always green? that's it. i've lost my marbles.

fractal wrote:

hookedonsonics wrote:

tony031r wrote:

untightled wrote:Falty's first release was 500, so why not continue the Mean Streets sequence by pressing another 500? All other releases are not limited and will continue to get represses if necessary, to paraphrase Loefah in his latest interview.

I can see your point but, there's been been 9 releases since Part 1. Releases which, as Loefah said, sell 2000 copies in a matter of weeks. More people started buying the stuff they put out since, more people got in touch. The demand levels are much higher than they were one year ago. Supplying the same amount of a product on a market that has, if something, doubled...it just won't do.

Not taking the piss, it's Loe's decision how many copies he sends out.
I'm just not feeling it so much if it's all just a matter of who gets to it first or if I have to pay at least 20-30£ extra to some jackal on Discogs.

I'm 15 pages late, but wanted to emphasize this. The people who suffer most from a 500 copy ltd release which PEOPLE WILL WANT are fans themselves.

Swamp sells out because they put out killer tunes. This is well known and I am all for it because it is a fantastic label which has taken a risk with vinyl releases.

However, I just paid $40 usd for a copy of SUNKLOWUN. my turntables were in storage when it came out, and I did not know that it was limited, so something that I very much wanted to have on wax i waited to buy and eventually had to pay some jerk's hiked price. the label and artists are still getting the same amount of $. but the person who bought it for the purpose of resale (probably 1/4 of those who bought SWAMP020) is making 75% more.*

how does this benefit anyone except for vinyl sellers on discogs
the artists still get their cut, sure. but what advantage does a limited press offer for a release that is going to sell a LOT of copies? why wouldn't you want your fans to have it? why would you want to make them pay more (and give money to re-sellers) for it?
please...somebody explain it to me. I am sure there is a reason.

I guess if you press a small amount and it is guaranteed to sell out then it is a low-risk venture. the profit will be clear right away and you won't have to gauge the time from release to percentage of the pressing sold at all.

I don't really care for that mentality, but I do understand it.

the reasoning could be as simple as he doesn't want the tune getting rinsed, or some other reason. i'm not advocating it, but its his label and he can do what he wants, obvi. we can guess and assume but who really knows

fractal wrote: we can guess and assume but who really knows