Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:46 am
tru powaNevalo wrote:what was the name of that dub tune rusko put a bassline & snare on? then tried to pass it off as his own?
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Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:47 am
that's not what i meant at all, lolLucifa wrote:what can't you understand about the difference between sampling and stealing?fractal wrote:bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,
one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em
just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines
Listen to what Reark has posted, actually listen to it, now tell me what Zomby did was just 'sampling'. He's literally just cut the intro, took out some vocal, and added little edits to the drums. That's it. The main body, content, synths, concept, and emotion of the track came from Reark. Yet Zomby feels entitled to release the track under his own name, openly brag about writing it himself, then profit of it without even the slightest credit to it's creator.
How anyone can compare that to cutting up a sample of something and interpreting it into an original piece of music is beyond me. It's not even a copyright/legality issue here, it's the moral bankruptcy of it.
No offence, but anyone who thinks Zomby is in no way in the wrong here is a dickhead. This is pure theft.
fair play non the less, but that wasn't the route i was going down
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:48 am
so what would one consider this? sampling or stealing?fractal wrote:tru powaNevalo wrote:what was the name of that dub tune rusko put a bassline & snare on? then tried to pass it off as his own?
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:50 am
here's the original
rusko said he found it in his hard drive and assumed it was his
rusko said he found it in his hard drive and assumed it was his
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:58 am
haha, yea i just had a search and found it.
not gonna lie, i prefer the original.
not gonna lie, i prefer the original.
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:59 am
What a wonderful excusefractal wrote: rusko said he found it in his hard drive and assumed it was his
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:03 am
fractal wrote:here's the original
rusko said he found it in his hard drive and assumed it was his
Really?Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:59 pm
has anyone got a list of up and coming shows zombys "playing" ?
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:32 pm
and the jungle/footwork ones.say_whut wrote:As a means of apology to the people he pissed off (I'm pretty neutral here, reark got his dues it seems) I reckon Zomby should drop a big ass zip file of all them eski tings
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:51 pm
shelovesme/shelovesmenot plz
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:24 pm
Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:49 pm
pikeymobile wrote:shelovesme/shelovesmenot plz
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:02 pm
rayman612 wrote:Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:49 pm
Lucifa wrote:what can't you understand about the difference between sampling and stealing?fractal wrote:bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,
one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em
just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines
Listen to what Reark has posted, actually listen to it, now tell me what Zomby did was just 'sampling'. He's literally just cut the intro, took out some vocal, and added little edits to the drums. That's it. The main body, content, synths, concept, and emotion of the track came from Reark. Yet Zomby feels entitled to release the track under his own name, openly brag about writing it himself, then profit of it without even the slightest credit to it's creator.
How anyone can compare that to cutting up a sample of something and interpreting it into an original piece of music is beyond me. It's not even a copyright/legality issue here, it's the moral bankruptcy of it.
No offence, but anyone who thinks Zomby is in no way in the wrong here is a dickhead. This is pure theft.
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:16 pm
rayman612 wrote:Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
Ok see thats sampling. Not stealing. Sampling, biting , and stealing are different things. But it doesn't matter. Its minor right !! Moving on...
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:23 pm
lolCaveLvl wrote:rayman612 wrote:Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
Ok see thats sampling. Not stealing. Sampling, biting , and stealing are different things. But it doesn't matter. Its minor right !! Moving on...
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:52 pm
He sampled one Thomas Bangalter song and remixed four tet. not sure what you're on aboutrayman612 wrote:Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:12 pm
exactly what you're on aboutdsprainman wrote:He sampled one Thomas Bangalter song and remixed four tet. not sure what you're on aboutrayman612 wrote:Dilla stole a lot of techno/house loops without crediting the creators...
But usually once the producers found out they talked to him and he was apologetic and sometimes he even collabed with them afterwards
"Raise It Up"
The song uses a sample from the song "Extra Dry" by Thomas Bangalter of Daft Punk. It was initially used without permission, as producer J Dilla obtained a copy of the song from a bootleg recording, and assumed that the artist was an obscure producer who was unlikely to notice. Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo however happened to be fans of Slum Village, and rather than demand a payment for the sample, instead asked the group to remix one of their own tracks; this ended up becoming Slum Village's remix of the song "Aerodynamic"
I think he did this a few other times, because he liked to sample house/techno tracks... I'm not criticizing him for it or anything
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:55 pm
Absolute train wreck. Im tappin out lol
Re: ZOMBY
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:12 am
RE: DIlla =
Don't forget, Dilla actually created stuff that was worth listening to. I was never a fan of Zomby even back when I thought he wrote his own tunes... but now that yet ANOTHER theft comes out (Natalia's Song is hardly the first) - it is obvious this cat had to rip off in order to become mediocre. It was only his ability to be a dick that made him legendary.
Don't forget, Dilla actually created stuff that was worth listening to. I was never a fan of Zomby even back when I thought he wrote his own tunes... but now that yet ANOTHER theft comes out (Natalia's Song is hardly the first) - it is obvious this cat had to rip off in order to become mediocre. It was only his ability to be a dick that made him legendary.