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parson wrote:it really is funny how transparent many of y'all are about being really upset about the idea of being fundamentally wrong about everything in the world. GRRR! MAD!!

maybeee....... you're wrong?

I know you've spent a lot of time looking into this (bad investment IMO) and you probably look at people on the street and think 'fools, they don't know what I know', you see the patterns, you block the manipulation. YOU ARE NEO.
But one day you might be in a room with all the worlds finest minds on one side, Nobel winners, people who have saved millions of lives, changed the world etc true geniuses of our age and.. they all disagree with you. And on your side of the room you have David Icke and a guy who lied about a free-energy motor he made out of a magnet and put the video on youtube so he could sell some seminar tickets...

Do you never ever question you ideas? I know I do 'cos that's what this whole crazy journey's about, and if you don't then you're really not enjoying the ride 'cos you've got your eyes closed and you're missing all the cool shit.
You seem like a very intelligent guy.... I just don't understand..

you still might not have figured this out, lloydnoise, but i'm significantly more intelligent than you and i happen to have a lot more time on my hands. its really not possible to raise points that i haven't considered from every possible angle.

q: how do i know the world is a video game?

a: because i have found cheat codes.

It's the gap between the quantum and the classical physical state that we experience that really intrigues me. Where is that boundary? How are they interacting in the way that they do, when one clashes so violently with the rules of the other?

Is mathematics real? Are numbers literally real, like some kind of quantum wrapping for things and not just a human construct to help us figure things out in an abstract and objective way?

I love this guy too:



One of the first quantum computers solved a problem it had been given before the algorithm had had been fully run.....
http://www.physorg.com/news11087.html



All very exciting if you ask me.

karmacazee wrote:It's the gap between the quantum and the classical physical state that we experience that really intrigues me. Where is that boundary? How are they interacting in the way that they do, when one clashes so violently with the rules of the other?

Is mathematics real? Are numbers literally real, like some kind of quantum wrapping for things and not just a human construct to help us figure things out in an abstract and objective way?

I love this guy too:



One of the first quantum computers solved a problem it had been given before the algorithm had had been fully run.....
http://www.physorg.com/news11087.html



All very exciting if you ask me.

Cheers for the vid links. Will watch these shortly.

Is the first vid from that human 2.0 documentary from a while back?

parson wrote:you still might not have figured this out, lloydnoise, but i'm significantly more intelligent than you and i happen to have a lot more time on my hands. its really not possible to raise points that i haven't considered from every possible angle.

Then how about all the terribly clever people who work on stuff you respect (i.e. Quantum Mechanics and theories of the Universe) don't buy it?

You're outnumbered by an awful lot of very distinguished people; people who haven't been afraid to tell the world of science it's been wrong about certain massive truths, the scientific community is even known to be willing to die for the spread of truth (Galileo, for one - upon whom the entire tradition of science is based)... why would these people keep quiet about things you're willing to shout about on the internet?

I understand what it's like to believe something if you read it enough. Hell, billions of people wander round believing in sacred books that contain far more outlandish things than you've ever suggested... you're not a whacko, just a subscriber to a different superstitiion.

But it is a superstition.



Edit: Oh yeah, you've blocked me. Another Mr Ostrich hiding from naughty people that don't buy Internet dogma...

threatened vampire wants to vamp me

clever people who don't buy it are either not admitting it publicly, or have not investigated enough. probably largely because of the public ridicule to be faced, which most people aren't very good at handling.

Motorway to Roswell wrote:

karmacazee wrote:It's the gap between the quantum and the classical physical state that we experience that really intrigues me. Where is that boundary? How are they interacting in the way that they do, when one clashes so violently with the rules of the other?

Is mathematics real? Are numbers literally real, like some kind of quantum wrapping for things and not just a human construct to help us figure things out in an abstract and objective way?

I love this guy too:



One of the first quantum computers solved a problem it had been given before the algorithm had had been fully run.....
http://www.physorg.com/news11087.html



All very exciting if you ask me.

Cheers for the vid links. Will watch these shortly.

Is the first vid from that human 2.0 documentary from a while back?

nice. will watch these

what quantum physics is slowly figuring out is that we're God.

magma wrote:You're outnumbered by an awful lot of very distinguished people.

so have a lot of people throughout history who over time proved them wrong

that whole believing the distinguished people bit is how we end up locked in this illusion.

this page of the thread has made it painfully clear how the root of this vehement dismissal of perspectives anomalous to the official story is simple insecurity.

I think the biggest problem with discussions like these and the reason that they constantly go around in circles is that the "alternative"views put forward can only truly be understood when the experience of realisation has been attained first hand.

Words can be a barrier like that.

can't dismiss insecurity though. fear can be a cage like that.

break out of your cage, Pikul.

parson wrote:you still might not have figured this out, lloydnoise, but i'm significantly more intelligent than you and i happen to have a lot more time on my hands. its really not possible to raise points that i haven't considered from every possible angle.

q: how do i know the world is a video game?

a: because i have found cheat codes.

call me lloyd, Mr Noise was my father's name

that was a perfectly good paperclip man

i never said the pinecone at the end of the popes staff was a stargate. i said the pineal is a stargate.

looking around downtown austin, i've noticed masonic symbolism all over the architecture. the greek columns, the hexagrams, the phi symbolism, etc. several of these buildings have got pedestals on the four corners and have a pinecone sitting on top of each of them. some of them have some dude's bust that i never recognize.

parson wrote:can't dismiss insecurity though. fear can be a cage like that.

True say, do you have any mechanisms in place that enable you to be certain that your own belief system isn't at least in some part formed by fear?

Not baiting, genuinely interested.

danoldboy wrote:

parson wrote:can't dismiss insecurity though. fear can be a cage like that.

True say, do you have any mechanisms in place that enable you to be certain that your own belief system isn't at least in some part formed by fear?

Not baiting, genuinely interested.

i don't feel motivated by fear. like i said i used to be freaked out by aliens and shit, but i'm not at all concerned with them day to day. i'm like that dude from memento (we all are) and i take good notes.

i also believe that i'm god (so are you). so i mean really i'm not motivated by fear. i'm honestly motivated by fascination and curiosity.