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collective wrote:
I never said anything about Acid Trax, I said Juke Trax (which may be in chicago but is own and ran by godfather from detroit). Ghetto Tech came about in the early 90s. Pre-94.

I find it funny you're downplaying Detroit, arguably one of the most influential cities in electronica. Outside of chicago and detroit and later berlin what cities do you hear people describing music like? London style? Nah... people use chicago and detroit as descriptors for a type of sound. Juan was just a part of the triumvirate that created techno (with saunderson and may).

sorry my mistake, read it as Acid Trax.

Not playing down Detroit at all. I have over a 1000 records in my Detroit box so they were doing something right;) I wouldn't really say anything sounds Chicago tbh, Detroit yes, but thats Techno for me. I often hear people talk about a London sound in music, especially Techno. I cannot think of much Jungle out of the UK and also 2step Garage. Also UK Breakbeat Hardcore/Early Rave had a UK Sound

Hey doods interesting discussion here. I def see a lot of potential in the amalgamation of juke as well as Baltimore sound that has been influencing productions by some of the UK bass producers recently. I'm not completely opposed to the slower stuff that has been coming out but personally I've been going the other way playing faster and faster tempos. It's all perspective though. House heads tell me it's sped up ghetto house or techno. Where as the dnb heads I know would say it's jungle slowed down haha. I say I don't really care as long as it's got that knock.

How about this? It's all right around 160-162.
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pranas wrote:Hey doods interesting discussion here. I def see a lot of potential in the amalgamation of juke as well as Baltimore sound that has been influencing productions by some of the UK bass producers recently. I'm not completely opposed to the slower stuff that has been coming out but personally I've been going the other way playing faster and faster tempos. It's all perspective though. House heads tell me it's sped up ghetto house or techno. Where as the dnb heads I know would say it's jungle slowed down haha. I say I don't really care as long as it's got that knock.

How about this? It's all right around 160-162.
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P.S. Everything old is new again.

Some nice bits there. At around 8:10, whats this track? like the vocal and are those pitched up 808s bds or toms? on laptop speakers so hard to tell.

That's a remix of a Pharrell and Snoop track but it is way sped up from the original. There is a tracklist in the description.



Sped is a funny looking word.

Link says not available in my country? wtf

any idea about those drums?

Hmm just look up Pharrell - That Girl for the vocal. As to the drums you would have to ask Salva cause he did the remix. It sounds to me like the lower tone is a kick and the higher ones are toms. If it is a kick it is one of the least sub-y kicks on the mix. But you would need to plug up to some decent speakers to be able to tell ;P and you should cause there is a lot going on down there that you are missing with them 1.5" laptop drivers.

ive always found pharrell had something old school juke-ish or hyphyish in his beats...

pranas wrote:Hey doods interesting discussion here. I def see a lot of potential in the amalgamation of juke as well as Baltimore sound that has been influencing productions by some of the UK bass producers recently. I'm not completely opposed to the slower stuff that has been coming out but personally I've been going the other way playing faster and faster tempos. It's all perspective though. House heads tell me it's sped up ghetto house or techno. Where as the dnb heads I know would say it's jungle slowed down haha. I say I don't really care as long as it's got that knock.

How about this? It's all right around 160-162.
Soundcloud

P.S. Everything old is new again.

Thats a good mix serato? cdjs?, its all that new juke stuff (apart from remixes). Not my thing personally and i dunno how closely to juke it actually is. The genre progressed, or changed rather, so much.

A loss of the connection with the actual dance has been kind of catastrophic to the music in my opinion. Also the way its mixed is completely different with this new influx. Its slow transition and there is little no turntabalism. No juggling, no nothing. That was a massive part of it as well.

The tracks were meant to be tools, usually a couple minutes long. You'd drop 30 seconds a track.

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collective wrote:
I never said anything about Acid Trax, I said Juke Trax (which may be in chicago but is own and ran by godfather from detroit). Ghetto Tech came about in the early 90s. Pre-94.

I find it funny you're downplaying Detroit, arguably one of the most influential cities in electronica. Outside of chicago and detroit and later berlin what cities do you hear people describing music like? London style? Nah... people use chicago and detroit as descriptors for a type of sound. Juan was just a part of the triumvirate that created techno (with saunderson and may).

sorry my mistake, read it as Acid Trax.

Not playing down Detroit at all. I have over a 1000 records in my Detroit box so they were doing something right;) I wouldn't really say anything sounds Chicago tbh, Detroit yes, but thats Techno for me. I often hear people talk about a London sound in music, especially Techno. I cannot think of much Jungle out of the UK and also 2step Garage. Also UK Breakbeat Hardcore/Early Rave had a UK Sound

It's funny, the guys from those cities or making 'that sound' really hate when people call it Detroit or Chicago. I do often say Detroit techno though, there was and is a certain sound coming from those cities and by saying it, it's obvious to most music nerds the specific sound you mean. 'Chicago sound' would probably be the Frankie Knuckles, MArshall Jefferson, Trax Records sound. Detroit to me means guys like Saunderson, Drexciya, Mike Huckaby, Rod Modell...