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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm
by ikeaboy
Piston wrote:
ikeaboy wrote:Shit. I promise never to post anything that long again. Anyway eh tits are great arn't they....
i did read it & it was interesting
Cheers P

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:03 pm
by pk-
i wish i hadn't ignored this thread now, i thought you were all still stuck on the simulation thing

reading!

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:59 am
by bedward
we are all the children of Elisabeth Fritzl.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:56 pm
by nousd
Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:59 pm
by elbe
SD5 wrote:Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:
:D true, but if so how come Im so indecissive :?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:01 pm
by nousd
Don't know and it doesn't matter!

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:27 pm
by ikeaboy
eLBe wrote:
SD5 wrote:Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:
:D true, but if so how come Im so indecissive :?
Maybe your destined to torment yourself
:( :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:28 pm
by ikeaboy
eLBe wrote:
SD5 wrote:Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:
:D true, but if so how come Im so indecissive :?
Maybe your destined to torment yourself
:( :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:37 pm
by aleks zen
eLBe wrote:
SD5 wrote:Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:
:D true, but if so how come Im so indecissive :?
its only cos u havent decided what u TRULY want

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:16 am
by elbe
ALEKS ZEN wrote:
eLBe wrote:
SD5 wrote:Predetermination means I have freedom from choice
and allows me to enjoy choosing what am I am doing anyway.

:h:
:D true, but if so how come Im so indecissive :?
its only cos u havent decided what u TRULY want
well yeah, of cause. If I had decided then i wouldn't have indecission. When I finally decide what I truly want its ok, untill the next decision. :D

Re: What do you think about this theory?

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:24 pm
by alphacat
4 years later...


huffpo wrote:
Physicists May Have Evidence Universe Is A Computer Simulation

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Physicists say they may have evidence that the universe is a computer simulation.

How? They made a computer simulation of the universe. And it looks sort of like us.


A long-proposed thought experiment, put forward by both philosophers and popular culture, points out that any civilisation of sufficient size and intelligence would eventually create a simulation universe if such a thing were possible.

And since there would therefore be many more simulations (within simulations, within simulations) than real universes, it is therefore more likely than not that our world is artificial.

Now a team of researchers at the University of Bonn in Germany led by Silas Beane say they have evidence this may be true.

In a paper named 'Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation', they point out that current simulations of the universe - which do exist, but which are extremely weak and small - naturally put limits on physical laws.

Technology Review explains that "the problem with all simulations is that the laws of physics, which appear continuous, have to be superimposed onto a discrete three dimensional lattice which advances in steps of time."

What that basically means is that by just being a simulation, the computer would put limits on, for instance, the energy that particles can have within the program.

These limits would be experienced by those living within the sim - and as it turns out, something which looks just like these limits do in fact exist.

For instance, something known as the Greisen-Zatsepin-Kuzmin, or GZK cut off, is an apparent boundary of the energy that cosmic ray particles can have. This is caused by interaction with cosmic background radiation. But Beane and co's paper argues that the pattern of this rule mirrors what you might expect from a computer simulation.

Naturally, at this point the science becomes pretty tricky to wade through - and we would advise you read the paper itself to try and get the full detail of the idea.

But the basic impression is an intriguing one.

Like a prisoner in a pitch-black cell, we may never be able to see the 'walls' of our prison -- but through physics we may be able to reach out and touch them.

Re: What do you think about this theory?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:35 am
by antipode
Pistonsbeneath wrote: If you think that there is a chance that the simulator of this world happens to be, say, a true-to-faith descendant of some contemporary Christian fundamentalist, you might conjecture that he or she has set up the simulation in such a way that the simulated beings will be rewarded or punished according to Christian moral criteria. An afterlife would, of course, be a real possibility for a simulated creature (who could either be continued in a different simulation after her death or even be “uploaded” into the simulator’s universe and perhaps be provided with an artificial body there).
this is fucked