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nowaysj wrote:Would DEFO, DEFO prefer the Sample.

Curious why. Like what is so tits about it? Its korg...so I trust...

gran pappy jose is in the honeymoon phase rn

cyclopian wrote:gran pappy jose is in the honeymoon phase rn

new gear energy

It's like having Geist in a hand held little box, that is fun to play and sounds amazing. It is like old school fruity loops.

Like the Volca Bass is incredible for its sound/value relationship, and is a totally usable 3 vco monosynth. But it is limited. It can do a lot, and what it does do, it sounds great, but there are limits. With just a smidgen more capability in the envelope and lfo and it would just be, I don't know, no words for it.

But the Sample... It's just instant techno box. It is so insane for sound design, and the kind that, like, is meaningful, sounds that are the music, that are the thing that is modulating, progressing the sizzling edge of the now that is music. It's fucking techno! But so hardly limited to techno. I was working on this thing that is 175bpm. High speed breaks without the breaks.

It's the facility of the sequencing combined with atonal, semi-tonal sound destruction. Can just flip through patterns. It very easily does things that are how I like to work, like jumping from 16 step sequence, to a 4 step. There are 10 voices being sequenced, with a grip of parameters available for sequencing.

You know, maybe I'd really dig the new electribe sampler. I never had one, had the drum machine and synth, but never the sampler. I'd have probably shit a brick over it. I really like playable samplers.

Now, it would be great if the Sample could actually sample, and even more importantly, resample. But, I've now got a kp3+ to on the fly resample, or even conceivably the 404. So not a problem.

Bottom line, it is just so easy to get a groove going. Like a really dynamic, fucked up groove. I could see songs being built around this armature, and then having it pulled out entirely.

It's just a magic box. That's it.

How is the workflow for loading/recording samples and editing them?
I quite like that whole process with Maschine.

AxeD wrote:How is the workflow for loading/recording samples and editing them?
I quite like that whole process with Maschine.

What I can't stand about maschine is the way they try to lock up your samples. It is not just an open platform. Editing samples is okay on maschine. It's kind of weird, because with maschine, you're on a computer, and I've got an audio editor that is really really quick, so it's like if I'm on a computer, why am I using this slightly cumbersome method of editing?

The Sample is not a sampleR. It does not sample. It is a sample playback device. It only has 4mb's of memory. It is like a little sp-1200.

The sample editing is going to be done in your computer's audio editor. And then samples go into an application that will down sample them, and get them ready for transfer to the Sample. Imo, the Sample would be vastly improved with a usb connection for transferring samples. But I'm not concerned IN THE SLIGHTEST. The facility of the device once you are using it is just so engaging, it'd make hand writing all the 0011's of the samples worth it.

If you're into any kind of looped music, I suggest an IMMEDIATE purchase.

Yea. I've been very curious about it, but the sample handling seems cumbersome (like I didn't expect onboard sample editing at that price point). But if it is actually as amazeballs as you say, maybe its worth preparing the samples and going through all that.

I'm still holding out to see what the new Electribe S actually is...there is beginning to be a lot of worry that it isn't actually a sampler...but rather a resampling machine...like you can do all the synth work you want onboard and resample sounds infinitely, but you can't load any of your own. There is literally no evidence on the Korg website that it actually loads external samples : ( and no word on Korg about it even though it was supposed to be released in March...

I have a hard time talking about these Volcas dude. Their value proposition, the price to sound and features is just unmatched in allllll of my years of making music, with alllllll the gear I've used (maybe ipad apps ). Honestly dude, these could be about 7 times the price and people we be like, "legit."

But also, the simplicity. I like having many simple tools that just do what they do.

Yeah, the sample prep, not worried about at ALL. I've done the same thing with the 404 for a few years now, I'm used to it.

Remember, it has 4 MB! of sample memory. You've got to go old school, speed up your samples then slow them down in the Sample.

But the sound manipulation in the Sample, 100 samples is extremely extensible, you can really twist sounds, a snare is a pad in a second. And I don't plan on making whole tracks with just one Sample, though honestly, like if you're some hungry kid in Ireland or Slovakia, you really could make an album with just a Sample. I'm not kidding about getting two of these. I've already got ideas that would require two of these.

But, the Sample is going to be one part of a layered song making experience/performance for me. For $120, it is just nonsensical.

^It seems like it would be cool to get two of them, sync them, and a do a set of "beats" with a DJ mixer...

I'm not trying to be anti- all these inexpensive new sound gadgets coming out...I don't want to be one of those GS members that goes around turning their noses up at things calling them toys. I've seen some cool stuff done with the Volcas and hope to see some cool stuff come out of the Teenage Engineer PO series.

I ended up selling my Volca Keys. I played around with it for a lot of hours after I said it sounded like ass way back some weeks ago. Just headphones and the Volca...making sequences, turning knobs, and I just couldn't get what I wanted out of it. I blame no one here. I bought it for the wrong reasons. The Volca Keys is not a three voice analog module...its a living, breathing little synth that needs the right kind of love...I don't have it in me.

That being said...I might be tempted to try the Bass from what you have said about it...and the Sample as well. I'm holding out though to hear about the new Electribe. If the new Electribe cannot load external audio in any fashion...then yea...I'll give the Volca Sample a shot...why the heck not?

Do the Sample before the Bass, trusssss.

nowaysj wrote:Do the Sample before the Bass, trusssss.

Yea. Way more interested in the Sample. When I get something new Im going for another synth. Hopefully a poly analog. But the Sample seems to be pretty rad.

a bit gutted u need an ipad/phone for it to work. what a shitty move

How many times have people said that that is not true... in this thread?

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/ ... c-windows/

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/12/t ... -shipping/

ahhh sick i may end up with one at some point. can u dial in a BPm exactly?

Shaw can boss.

How exactly?

I'm dialed in at 175.0 There is a decimal for 1/10th of a bpm. I don't know how to adjust the decimal place, haven't read the manual on these. But I try to stick to whole bpms anyway for eaaasse.

gooddddd times. im willing to bet its solidly in time too.

In the near past, I've just used the Bass as a module, so no seq. Seq'ed from fl. But I'm fixin to record some Sample, so we'll see how tight to 175 it rally is.

I'll send you some super fast beats if you need it boss

got some nice edited beats above 200 bpm somewhere

Hit me up at 175. I've been a little speedy lately. (After working for several years @ 70~90)

I've just decided I must actually have ocd because I dont produce at 175

I've got 170 172 173 174 tho.

It's not a joke this time