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Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:40 pm
by Forum
garethom wrote:By simple logic, Birmingham City are better than England, and therefore at least the second best team in the world, and I will hear no words against my theory.
And Villa would still be better

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:43 pm
by magma
scspkr99 wrote:It's shit losing your best players to a rival but it's a good chunk of money for a 29 year old player with a year left. It's a testament to both how good he is and how fucked the market is.

Your hope has to be that it all goes to transfers
I'm an Arsenal fan, we spend our entire lives hoping for spending on transfers!

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:53 pm
by scspkr99
There's no denying how well Wenger has done in the transfer market over his time but there's got to be a concern that a club that generates so much money breaks even or makes money on transfers.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:56 pm
by Forum
I saw a chart the other day of the overall money gained/lost through transfers for each club since the premiership began. It was shocking some of the clubs that have spent more than us, pretty sure Wigan was one of them...

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:57 pm
by ehbes
Yeah they really need to take a few transfer market tips from LFC

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:01 pm
by magma
scspkr99 wrote:There's no denying how well Wenger has done in the transfer market over his time but there's got to be a concern that a club that generates so much money breaks even or makes money on transfers.
Well, I approve of them breaking even or even keeping a little slush fund in reserve - I like the fact Arsenal keep themselves afloat properly, but the odd splurge would be more than welcome! We have a great habit of breaking in young stars or seeing off old ones... we need at least a couple in the prime of their career.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:01 pm
by garethom
southstar wrote:
garethom wrote:By simple logic, Birmingham City are better than England, and therefore at least the second best team in the world, and I will hear no words against my theory.
And Villa would still be better
Dirt. :a:

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:03 pm
by Forum
:lol: Don't know why but i've always liked Villa. My opinion of Birmingham has been forever tarnished by that season under Mcleish

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:04 pm
by scspkr99
It's good to see football clubs ran well and do ok. You'll have the stadium costs covered quickly and it may be then that you see a net spend on transfers while still turning a profit but it's going to be tough when Chelsea, and the Manchester teams are strengthening and your not. You're still favourites for 4th I think because Modric is Madrid bound. Song would be a massive loss tho.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 pm
by magma
scspkr99 wrote:Song would be a massive loss tho.
Fucking word. Quietly amazing for the last couple of seasons.

I get the impression that's the financial plan really, but it only really works if they keep qualifying for the Champions League... contrary to club stereotype, I don't really care that much about having not won the Premiership in ages given the amount clubs like Chelsea and Man City have been spending, but if they want to keep the finances up to scratch they need to make sure they're on every stage they can be in the meantime. I think Wenger is on the same page with that tbh...

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:22 pm
by scspkr99
See I think it is the plan but clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool exist to win stuff. I get how arrogant that makes me sound (it's still a real purty glass house ;) ) but the clubs have a tradition that the fans grow entrenched in. There has to be a mechanism that counters the massive spenders and I think that's what the clubs below those three have to find.

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:30 pm
by Forum
Im worried we're never going to see the best of Wilshere, players rarely get back to their best after being injured for that long

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:34 pm
by jaydot
southstar wrote::lol: Don't know why but i've always liked Villa. My opinion of Birmingham has been forever tarnished by that season under Mcleish
The season they won the league cup you mean? :i:

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:36 pm
by Forum
They deserved the league cup, Arsenal were pathetic in that final.

Im talking about their 9-0-1 formation in every premiership game that season

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 pm
by Forum
They deserved the league cup, Arsenal were pathetic in that final.

Im talking about their 9-0-1 formation in every premiership game that season

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 pm
by jaydot
southstar wrote:They deserved the league cup, Arsenal were pathetic in that final.

Im talking about their 9-0-1 formation in every premiership game that season
Well most teams that go on to get relegated play that formation. ;-)

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:41 pm
by garethom
southstar wrote:They deserved the league cup, Arsenal were pathetic in that final.

Im talking about their 9-0-1 formation in every premiership game that season
Yep, that was dirt, but maybe you should know that in 3 of our last 4 games (admittedly pre-season and a league cup game), we've scored 5 goals each time? Also, last year we were the 2nd highest scoring team after Southampton. Hopefully those days are behind us.

And also, if Mcleish tarnished blues in your eyes, what about his season at Villa? Finished on less points that blues, less wins, less goals scored, more goals conceded (I think)!

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:47 pm
by Forum
I felt a bit sorry for Mcleish at villa. The fans clearly never wanted him there and it was obvious some of the players were putting fuck all effort in

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:52 pm
by garethom
southstar wrote:I felt a bit sorry for Mcleish at villa. The fans clearly never wanted him there and it was obvious some of the players were putting fuck all effort in
Remove yourself Viler. :lol:

Re: The SNH Football thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:01 pm
by espire
4-2 win vs The Netherlands... Last time they conceded four was in 1999 against us as well 8)