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Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:39 pm
by nowaysj
faultier wrote: also re: having no control over the direction a track takes > exactly the reason why i dont think i'm capable of making a consistent set of tunes for an EP, let alone an album
Well, look at Bud, he's got like 3 or 5 ep's worth of tunes, in various directions, because the fucker cranks. Just sort and stack em together later. You know?

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:37 pm
by Aufnahmewindwuschel
def
if you dont have a straight plan like i wanna make whatever a trapddr album :3
you should just make tunes work on old ones and listen through what you made and sort them by feeling really you got some instrumentals so make an instrumental folder
you got some with vocals and more like faster future garage dif folder

and its really wierd anyways some tunes i really just made people liked really well (for the range we work anyways)
and other tunes where i put alot of effort into didnt work that well so i guess if you like a tune but you didnt work hard for its still a good one you know what i mean

like maybe think about an ep till sunday and present it here and the tunaers could listen through and maybe one is really not fitting or sth or maybe all are cool its really hard to tell by yourself though

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:19 pm
by yilan
definitely agree with this. just make tunes, think about everything else later.

I'd definitely be happy to give feedback on some overall EPs. Would be nice to see how some tuna submissions get shaped up and polished into something bigger a few weeks/months later.

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:25 pm
by faultier
well thing is if only for tuna i've been making 1+ track a week for months now, so i do sit on a shitload of unfinished tracks, but the thing is, even if i was to sort them by genre or by how they sounded, there's like massive difference in production values which is more the issue i was thinking of

this said, the string of remixes of Bud's stuff i made for the tunaweek are shaping into something that could be a sort of consistent EP, i might run it through you guys (when/if i ever get to a point where i'm feeling it's done)

also, i really need to get on the feedback for this week

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:45 pm
by nowaysj
I personally don't feel any great compunction to homogenize a collection of songs.

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:45 pm
by DrGatineau
WHAT DUZ TUNA! MEAN

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:19 pm
by nowaysj
Who are you again?

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FEELING GOOD TODAY DUDES!

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:14 pm
by m8son666
Like sweet little baby jesus christ the lord himself i have returned

I've missed you guys, will hopefully have sumting for this week, been fairly productive recently.

Listening back through the past weeks the standard of you guys' tunes have been sick!

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:10 pm
by nowaysj
We kept pointing at his back and (quietly) telling people "That's M8son...."

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:23 am
by faultier
welcome back m8son :Q:
nowaysj wrote:I personally don't feel any great compunction to homogenize a collection of songs.
but i'd say, my point wasn't as much about being able to homogenize a collection of songs retroactively just for the sake of it but more about wishing to have the ability to carve a larger cohesive piece of work from the get go, as a conscious process. like a writer that can write ok short stories but would like to be able to write a novel (not sure how that metaphor works, but you get me)

finally on that feedback:

@harkat: liking what you got so far, it just needs some work on the structure imo, like stripping it down a bit at times, maybe automate some stuff, add incidentals here and there, just make it more interesting and less samey throughout. possibly bring in another (even really subtle) element after your breakdown? also agree with yilan, you should put that vocal sample a bit more on the forefront.

@budspencer: sick sound design on those basslines, mixdown is on point. wish the end wasn't so abrupt tho, it could have gone for another minute i'd say. aside from that hard to critique it really. on a more personal taste level, i'd like it to be a tad grittier, a la early vex'd. for ex: use mild distortion on some of the snares. stuff like that, idk...

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:33 am
by nowaysj
faultier wrote:
nowaysj wrote:I personally don't feel any great compunction to homogenize a collection of songs.
but i'd say, my point wasn't as much about being able to homogenize a collection of songs retroactively just for the sake of it but more about wishing to have the ability to carve a larger cohesive piece of work from the get go, as a conscious process. like a writer that can write ok short stories but would like to be able to write a novel (not sure how that metaphor works, but you get me)
Yeah, I don't participate in albums too much. I've never gotten more from an album than the sum of the parts. And to the opposite, I usually get less than the sum of the parts, as songs seem to detract from each other in certain ways.

I'm sure that is just me.

Feel free to speak more on what this compunction to carve a 5 song set of songs from one rock feels like, what motivates it. I really don't get it at all.

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:50 am
by faultier
idk, i guess i like to think i write music about stuff, like there's a topic i'm addressing when i write a tune (allow the pompousness)(btw, nowj, i feel you do that too, but maybe i'm wrong) and i'd like to be able to stretch that over a set of tunes with an overarching theme and common aesthetics, something like self-reference, intertwined themes recurring throughout the whole piece? not sure that's clear... i guess the novel metaphor is the best i can come up with.

this said, i get you tho, most "albums" are just a collection of tunes, but there are exceptions that manage to pull it off imho... and that's what make these "masterpieces" in my eyes
most likely there's a bit of (probably unnecessary) nostalgia of the times where you'd purchase a CD/LP and go home to sit through the whole of it, as opposed to handpicking the track you like based on 30s previews on itunes

tl,dr: i'd like to be able to make a concept album (again, allow the pompousness) but i don't think i can pull it off

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:30 am
by nowaysj
:H:

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:31 am
by zosomagik
Yooooooo, took a hiatus from producing for a minute to catch some inspiration. Glad to see the tuna get moved to the production thread. Hopefully gonna have some stuff in the next couple of weeks. TUNA! forever :Q:

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:56 am
by nowaysj
Oh shit, we're in production. I was hanging out in my underwear and shit.

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:32 am
by Aufnahmewindwuschel
no no i think just the whole contest subthread got erased

oh and faultier/defaultuzr offered to run the tuna this week!
so send your tunes to him this time please

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:33 pm
by m8son666
aye safe i'll probably have somethign done this evening

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:51 pm
by nowaysj
Thought you were bizand?

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:03 pm
by m8son666
was only a 24 hour one this time lol

Re: TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:39 pm
by nowaysj
You're working shifts. A month off. Six hours on. Twenty four hours off...