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slothrop wrote:I don't generally moan about it on forums because I know that's not very productive, but I can see why people who've been into dubstep for a while get pissed off about filth / brostep / wobble becoming synonymous with the scene.

Personally, I kind of found dubstep in the mid 00's, at a time when, apart from a few isolated pockets of resistance, the jungle / dnb scene seemed to have been completely taken over by formulaic big room friday night bangers and kill-ur-parents 'dark' stuff. Dubstep was a total breath of fresh air because it was musically radical and varied and constantly changing and because it was a very cool and relaxed scene - people standing by the speakers with a spliff in one hand and a red stripe in the other, eyes closed, getting deep to amazing music.

And I think a lot of people who got into dubstep at that time got into it because it had not too many arseholes and wasn't dominated by generic bangers - there were anthems and ruff heavy tunes but they didn't all sound the same.

And now it feels like a lot of the people getting into dubstep are turning it into exactly the sort of scene that we originally got into it to escape from. Which feels like it's taking the piss a bit. Like, it's not enough to just ignore the stuff that you don't like and go and find the stuff you do like, but you also have to accept that in a couple of years, the people who like the stuff that you don't like will come along and make the stuff that you do like just as bad as the stuff that you don't like.

Anyway, yeah, and all that, I'm not expecting it to change or anything but I think that explains why some people are quite so hostile to wobble tunes...

tacospheros wrote:

slothrop wrote:I don't generally moan about it on forums because I know that's not very productive, but I can see why people who've been into dubstep for a while get pissed off about filth / brostep / wobble becoming synonymous with the scene.

Personally, I kind of found dubstep in the mid 00's, at a time when, apart from a few isolated pockets of resistance, the jungle / dnb scene seemed to have been completely taken over by formulaic big room friday night bangers and kill-ur-parents 'dark' stuff. Dubstep was a total breath of fresh air because it was musically radical and varied and constantly changing and because it was a very cool and relaxed scene - people standing by the speakers with a spliff in one hand and a red stripe in the other, eyes closed, getting deep to amazing music.

And I think a lot of people who got into dubstep at that time got into it because it had not too many arseholes and wasn't dominated by generic bangers - there were anthems and ruff heavy tunes but they didn't all sound the same.

And now it feels like a lot of the people getting into dubstep are turning it into exactly the sort of scene that we originally got into it to escape from. Which feels like it's taking the piss a bit. Like, it's not enough to just ignore the stuff that you don't like and go and find the stuff you do like, but you also have to accept that in a couple of years, the people who like the stuff that you don't like will come along and make the stuff that you do like just as bad as the stuff that you don't like.

Anyway, yeah, and all that, I'm not expecting it to change or anything but I think that explains why some people are quite so hostile to wobble tunes...

THIS is a perfect summary of how i feel. i got tired of my jungle scene being completely saturated with either midrange tearout or kill your mother head banging shit. dubstep was a breath of fresh air, not just being new, but being creative and still gangster. dred bass. tension. heads on the floor. being there for the music, not just the scene.

it's a backlash against the sound being infiltrated by the same people who ruined dnb .

+3 wrote:Because the “deep” sound is the original Dubstep sound. People were passionate about it, because they had an emotional attachment to it. Not just the sound, but the entire experience--the scene--the culture.

my name is not billy wrote:

+3 wrote:Because the “deep” sound is the original Dubstep sound. People were passionate about it, because they had an emotional attachment to it. Not just the sound, but the entire experience--the scene--the culture.

This!

badger wrote:classic hipster posturing on the internet about how what you listen to is better than anyone else's taste. personally i agree with most of the remarks but i'm not going to bother wasting my time telling people how much i dislike it

zerbaman wrote:

badger wrote:classic hipster posturing on the internet about how what you listen to is better than anyone else's taste. personally i agree with most of the remarks but i'm not going to bother wasting my time telling people how much i dislike it

That's blatantly hypocritical...

dj $hy wrote:

my name is not billy wrote:

+3 wrote:Because the “deep” sound is the original Dubstep sound. People were passionate about it, because they had an emotional attachment to it. Not just the sound, but the entire experience--the scene--the culture.

This!

But people who are into or make the "Hyped" stuff also have an emotional attachment! Me personally I have a massive attachment to Dubstep since it began! Been producing for 8 years now, just took a different route! I always supported the deep stuff, still do but for me and from a production stance I've taken that Coki, I guess wobble era and moved forward with that!

And you say deep is the OG sound, but wobble was just as OG to Dubstep, every deep producer has done wobble tunes but back then it was ok - its just turned into a bit of a monster now! I remember DMZ's being full of it, reloads on every tune, the whole place going wild!

LA_Boxers wrote:Yeah you dont ever really hear of people who start of by hearing the more deep side of things suddenly switch over to the filth.

brasco wrote:IMO i find 'deep' etc seems to be quality over quantity, whereas 'noise' is definitely quantity over quality.

Intended Malice wrote:I wanted to include this in my post in an attempt to reveal just how moot and trivial all this really is. So consider this the postscript that never was to address just 'Why do deep heads seem to hate on the hyped stuff so much?!' (An absurd comment to say the least.)

mikey g wrote:

dj $hy wrote: Personally I've heard a lot of terrible Mala wannabes that have no idea about production other than opening up reason, laying a kick n snare down n a sub n some gay flute! Swings both ways!

made me laugh loads.

i want more tunes with gay flutes

tacospheros wrote:

slothrop wrote:I don't generally moan about it on forums because I know that's not very productive, but I can see why people who've been into dubstep for a while get pissed off about filth / brostep / wobble becoming synonymous with the scene.

Personally, I kind of found dubstep in the mid 00's, at a time when, apart from a few isolated pockets of resistance, the jungle / dnb scene seemed to have been completely taken over by formulaic big room friday night bangers and kill-ur-parents 'dark' stuff. Dubstep was a total breath of fresh air because it was musically radical and varied and constantly changing and because it was a very cool and relaxed scene - people standing by the speakers with a spliff in one hand and a red stripe in the other, eyes closed, getting deep to amazing music.

And I think a lot of people who got into dubstep at that time got into it because it had not too many arseholes and wasn't dominated by generic bangers - there were anthems and ruff heavy tunes but they didn't all sound the same.

And now it feels like a lot of the people getting into dubstep are turning it into exactly the sort of scene that we originally got into it to escape from. Which feels like it's taking the piss a bit. Like, it's not enough to just ignore the stuff that you don't like and go and find the stuff you do like, but you also have to accept that in a couple of years, the people who like the stuff that you don't like will come along and make the stuff that you do like just as bad as the stuff that you don't like.

Anyway, yeah, and all that, I'm not expecting it to change or anything but I think that explains why some people are quite so hostile to wobble tunes...

THIS is a perfect summary of how i feel. i got tired of my jungle scene being completely saturated with either midrange tearout or kill your mother head banging shit. dubstep was a breath of fresh air, not just being new, but being creative and still gangster. dred bass. tension. heads on the floor. being there for the music, not just the scene.

it's a backlash against the sound being infiltrated by the same people who ruined dnb .

hellfire machina wrote:.

bagelator wrote:

hellfire machina wrote:.

you ruined breaks (just joking)

bagelator wrote:

hellfire machina wrote:.

you ruined breaks (just joking)