sorry for posting a link about islamic burial rites, I know it potentially contradicts your lefty pop politics conspiracy bullshit.
discussions are so much better when everyone agrees.
i quoted the wrong post, it's hard to distinguish one of your troll attempts from the next.
the fact that everyone on this forum thinks I'm 'trolling' shows how narrow your world views are.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:54 pm
by pkay
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:02 pm
by nowaysj
The world is against you! You are a hero!
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:26 pm
by Biscuit
bagelator wrote:why would they bury his body at sea?
They sure weren't going to bring him to the United States and bury him here were they? Also, Saudi Arabia refused to take him or so I've heard, so what were they supposed to do?
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:37 pm
by nowaysj
Let the press view his body?
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:44 pm
by AllNightDayDream
pkay wrote:
a.mazing.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:56 pm
by knell
the guy live-tweeted the Osama raid without even knowing what it was
technology....
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:59 pm
by esfandyar
knell wrote:
the guy live-tweeted the Osama raid without even knowing what it was
Wikileaks says US knew of Abbottabad lair from 2008
02.05.2011 22:13
The United States probably knew by 2008 about Osama bin Laden's lair in Abbottabad, according to the anti-secrecy website Wikileaks on Monday, quoting from a leaked US cable, dpa reported.
The document contained notes on the interrogation of a Libyan, Abu al-Libi, who was in detention at Guantanamo on Cuba and said he had been appointed as a bin Laden messenger in 2003 to be based in Abbottabad.
"In July 2003, detainee received a letter from (Osama bin Laden's) designated courier, Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan, requesting detainee take on the responsibility of collecting donations, organizing travel and distributing funds for families in Pakistan.
"(Osama bin Laden) stated detainee would be the official messenger between (Osama bin Laden) and others in Pakistan. In mid-2003, detainee moved his family to Abbottabad (Pakistan) and worked between Abbottabad and Peshawar."
Wikileaks disclosed the reference on Twitter. Wikileaks is gradually publishing 250,000 leaked US diplomatic messages. The document abbreviated Osama bin Laden's name to "UBL."
MP: Bin Laden Killed for Fear of Intelligence Leakage
TEHRAN (FNA)- The US has killed the Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden, in a bid to prevent any possible leakage of intelligence and information about the US-Al-Qaeda joint terrorist operations, a senior Iranian legislator underscored on Monday.
"The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the past years and today… it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday.
He mentioned that the West seeks to rebuild its damaged face in the international community, and reiterated that Bin Laden's survival could endanger the interests of the western countries and disclose their past and future clandestine operations.
Jahangirzadeh warned the world countries that the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.
Obama announced on Sunday that bin Laden was killed in a US operation in Pakistan.
Obama said he had directed helicopter-borne US armed forces to launch an attack against a heavily fortified compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Sunday acting on a lead that first emerged last August.
"A small team of Americans… killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body," Obama said.
Senior US officials said that in addition to bin Laden, three adult males died in the raid, two who were believed to be couriers for the Al-Qaeda leader, and one who was said to be one of his adult sons.
One woman who was being used as a human shield was also killed, the officials said.
MP: Bin Laden Killed for Fear of Intelligence Leakage
TEHRAN (FNA)- The US has killed the Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden, in a bid to prevent any possible leakage of intelligence and information about the US-Al-Qaeda joint terrorist operations, a senior Iranian legislator underscored on Monday.
"The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the past years and today… it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday.
He mentioned that the West seeks to rebuild its damaged face in the international community, and reiterated that Bin Laden's survival could endanger the interests of the western countries and disclose their past and future clandestine operations.
Jahangirzadeh warned the world countries that the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.
Obama announced on Sunday that bin Laden was killed in a US operation in Pakistan.
Obama said he had directed helicopter-borne US armed forces to launch an attack against a heavily fortified compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Sunday acting on a lead that first emerged last August.
"A small team of Americans… killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body," Obama said.
Senior US officials said that in addition to bin Laden, three adult males died in the raid, two who were believed to be couriers for the Al-Qaeda leader, and one who was said to be one of his adult sons.
One woman who was being used as a human shield was also killed, the officials said.
Javad Jahangirzadeh has also said that the holocaust didn't happen so yeah... take that mans word for what its worth.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:54 pm
by snypadub
I posted this earlier on facebook:
Today, a man of significantly high public profile, allegedly died. What does this mean to me? Not much, in all honesty. I am not quite sure he has died as there is little evidence out there to suggest it (unless you are an avid beleiver of everything you are told by authority figures). Regardless of whether or not the man has died I would like to suggest something a little controversial: He didn't deserve it.
The man was notorious for his hatred of western culture and, like it or not, I think he was justified in his hatred. We (by we I mean, 'they') invaded his homeland, destroyed all we could, raped the resources and tried to force our western ideologies onto his people. I think if that had been you or I we would have felt as much hatred as he reportedly felt. This understandably lead to him outwardly proclaiming a state of jihad on our western world. In my honest opinion, he had every right to want to get revenge! I am not condoning or justifying violence in any manner and, frankly, I disaprove any kind of violence but, I feel he was justified in his own internal reasons.
In later life he was blamed for the terrorist attacks in 2001 on the twin towers. I am not writing this to stir up controversy and am asking each of you to make your own, informed, opinions on the matter but, I don't think he was even remotely responsible (there is far more evidence to support this claim than there is the official explanation by the way).
So, today, we killed our creation. Today we destroyed our own made monster. Today, a man may have lost his life for reasons that seem much less than reasonable! Every day, hundreds (if not thousands) are dying as a direct consequence of our war with their nations.
I think this needs to stop. I think this country and the Americans need to stop wasting precious resources and finances on an unjustifiable and immoral war with the middle east.
What ever happened to the simple and far more reasonable ideology of peace? What is stopping us from simply loving each and every human being on this planet.
'I am your lord God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; [...] you shall not murder [...] neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor'
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:56 pm
by clifford_-
in b4...
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:00 pm
by esfandyar
pkay wrote:
Javad Jahangirzadeh has also said that the holocaust didn't happen so yeah... take that mans word for what its worth.
thats a good point. still, the idea that the US quieted him for fear of revealing internal knowledge is lingering.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:01 pm
by noam
[statham mode]
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Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:01 pm
by cityzen
snypadub wrote:We (by we I mean, 'they') invaded his homeland
Fuck! We invaded Saudi Arabia as well? I missed that one.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:02 pm
by Genevieve
esfandyar wrote:
pkay wrote:
Javad Jahangirzadeh has also said that the holocaust didn't happen so yeah... take that mans word for what its worth.
thats a good point. still, the idea that the US quieted him for fear of revealing internal knowledge is lingering.
Trusting the Iranian media on America is rather silly, no?
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:04 pm
by pkay
snypadub wrote:
In later life he was blamed for the terrorist attacks in 2001 on the twin towers. I am not writing this to stir up controversy and am asking each of you to make your own, informed, opinions on the matter but, I don't think he was even remotely responsible (there is far more evidence to support this claim than there is the official explanation by the way).
Not only did Bin Laden claim responsibility for the 9-11 attacks he did it multiple times as did numerous members of al qaeda.
So you're either implying they convinced him to lie and take credit or you're a fucking retard who is just spouting shit guesses because it's a lot easier than educating themselves.
Sorry to be brash but anyone who has any frame of reference outside other internet theories can see right through the stupidity of this bullshit argument. And there is not any overwhelming evidence to support your argument. There are guesses. There are people who werent at WTC, aren't respected experts, and are only elevated by other unrespected uneducated folks.
Just because it is on the internet doesn't mean its true.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:06 pm
by nowaysj
cityzen wrote:
snypadub wrote:We (by we I mean, 'they') invaded his homeland
Fuck! We invaded Saudi Arabia as well? I missed that one.