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Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:21 am
by magma
Death is the final escape for politicians. There really is no point in celebrating her death, the only appropriate thing to do is challenge her legacy that lives within
active politicians.
Apart from having to spend most of her retirement with an armed guard, Thatcher got away scot-free.
My brother put it nicely the other day...
An enemy general who’s been retired from active service for most of the last twenty years has died. Of natural causes. In old age.
Meanwhile, Osborne lives. Gove lives. Duncan-Smith lives. Cameron lives. Murdoch lives. Paul Dacre lives. Karl Rove lives. Every other arsehole who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing lives.
Attack the living. They can still feel shame.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:25 am
by Pedro Sánchez
magma wrote:Death is the final escape for politicians. There really is no point in celebrating her death, the only appropriate thing to do is challenge her legacy that lives within
active politicians.
Apart from having to spend most of her retirement with an armed guard, Thatcher got away scot-free.
My brother put it nicely the other day...
An enemy general who’s been retired from active service for most of the last twenty years has died. Of natural causes. In old age.
Meanwhile, Osborne lives. Gove lives. Duncan-Smith lives. Cameron lives. Murdoch lives. Paul Dacre lives. Karl Rove lives. Every other arsehole who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing lives.
Attack the living. They can still feel shame.
Although I totally agree with you bro's sentiment Mag, I think he may of plagerised the last part, have a word.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:32 am
by magma
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:02 am
by magma
Only decent thing to come out of this being on all the screens in the office so far is a colleague musing that someone could've accidentally left the cannon on the gun carriage and loaded Thatcher to be fired out across the Thames.
That'd be worth £10m.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:30 am
by Laszlo
magma wrote:There really is no point in celebrating her death
Catharsis for the masses?
Or do you just mean '
really there is no point'? Like, philosophically, because celebrating doesn't achieve anything...
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:55 am
by magma
Laszlo wrote:magma wrote:There really is no point in celebrating her death
Catharsis for the masses?
Or do you just mean '
really there is no point'? Like, philosophically, because celebrating doesn't achieve anything...
Quite right. It just doesn't achieve anything for the struggle - it might achieve something for the individual. Personally, I thought she was more of an effective symbol for the Left whilst she was alive - we could accuse Tories of being her lapdogs... even as far as Cameron, people assumed she has a lot more influence behind the scenes than she probably did in actuality.
Now we're without a boogey(wo)man we're all going to have to learn about, like, the
issues and shit.
What has Osborne just seen?!

Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:57 am
by Forum
a fox by the looks of it
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:02 am
by Laszlo
Woah!! Easy there, Magma!! NSWE (not safe while eating) warning would have been nice

Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:18 am
by Pedro Sánchez
Giddyon is thinking: FUCK...YES... FROM FOLDING TOWLES TO FUCKING UP A COUNTRY... THANKYOU MAAM... THANKYOU... YOUR SPIRIT LIVES ON....IHT FHUCKING LIVES ONNNNNNNN
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:19 am
by magma
Laszlo wrote:Woah!! Easy there, Magma!! NSWE (not safe while eating) warning would have been nice

I'M SO SICK OF THIS PLACE (c) Raggles
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:44 pm
by test_recordings
I think the celebrating will draw attention to the widespread, at mildest, dislike of her actions that British people like to try and pretend no-one else has so they can feign helpless individualism.
She is the first public figure to have their death publicly celebrated. Everyone can see it, the whole world at least now knows the average person might not be so patriotic as the news makes out...
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:48 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
I was told, and don't know if it's bullshit or true, that her picture still hangs in the PM's main office at No.10, since her time their and no successive PM has yet tried to take it down.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:52 pm
by Forum
Pedro Sánchez wrote:I was told, and don't know if it's bullshit or true, that her picture still hangs in the PM's main office at No.10, since her time their and no successive PM has yet tried to take it down.
It is, i saw it behind Cameron on the news
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:56 pm
by magma
Pedro Sánchez wrote:I was told, and don't know if it's bullshit or true, that her picture still hangs in the PM's main office at No.10, since her time their and no successive PM has yet tried to take it down.
All PMs have a portrait on the wall in Number 10, but I think they're generally above the main stairway - there's a second big one of Thatcher in the study, but not in the PM's office.
Portraits get taken down eventually though - I reckon her favourite marks were probably things like this:
A gold leaf thatcher climbing the coving. I bet that'll be there for centuries.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:59 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
So I was bullshitted

fucking blazing sessions, I should know better.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:01 pm
by Laszlo
test recordings wrote:She is the first public figure to have their death publicly celebrated. Everyone can see it, the whole world at least now knows the average person might not be so patriotic as the news makes out...
Perhaps thye people celebrating
are patriotic as they see her as someone who gutted the country they love.
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:22 pm
by magma
Laszlo wrote:test recordings wrote:She is the first public figure to have their death publicly celebrated. Everyone can see it, the whole world at least now knows the average person might not be so patriotic as the news makes out...
Perhaps thye people celebrating
are patriotic as they see her as someone who gutted the country they love.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" - Howard Zinn
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:24 pm
by Laszlo
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:25 pm
by wub
"Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is an underrated classic" - Wub
Re: Maggie's Deed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:27 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
"I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake." - Dick Jones