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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:31 pm
by wobbles
then dont say that shit u terrorist sympathizer
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:31 pm
by DJoe
lol wut
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:32 pm
by nowaysj
faultier wrote:they had become a bit islamophobic over the last years...
Maybe after their offices had been firebombed by adherents of islam.

Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:39 pm
by AxeD
wobbles wrote:and we traverse the stages of grief together...

Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:50 pm
by nowaysj
Lol, go hard:
The dope-smoking, rapping, 'loser' brothers turned mass killing commandos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3OEgEpSLd
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm
by mason666
false flag for ched evans imo
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:36 pm
by wolf89
Well, regardless of whether they could be called islamophobic or equally against everyone with their satire from what I've seen their idea of biting satire is just to set out to offend people. Seems kinda shit. Not to detract from how awful this is but I dunno.
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:00 pm
by mIrReN
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:27 pm
by ultraspatial
how dare these muslims not share the same opinions as us europeans
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:35 pm
by garethom
Re: all the talk of Charlie Hebdo being hateful or whatever. Isn't the whole point of satire to ridicule power and those in control, whether that be government, financial, religious or whatever. While it might seem hateful, that's part of the point, isn't it? Hate for a lot of aspects of those in control, and the desire to challenge them?
Like, be offended, it might make you think?
Dunno.
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:50 pm
by mIrReN
ultraspatial wrote:how dare these muslims not share the same opinions as us europeans
?
and why the fuck doesn't my link work
add; can-europe-make-it/cas-mudde/no-we-are-not-all-charlie-and-that’s-problem after .net/ if you want to read it
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:52 pm
by ultraspatial
that's what i took away from that article
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:07 pm
by mIrReN
guess I misread most of the article :/
edit; can you quote pieces that makes you think that way?
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:34 pm
by ultraspatial
cba to go throught it again but it was basically all "us europeans vs them" "they don't respect our values", subtle hints of islamophobia while criticising islamophobia and it just had that air of "unity in diversity" eu fairytales
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:54 pm
by jrkhnds
tbh whoever thinks Charlie Hebdo was islamophobic needs to do some reading. it was a satirical zine, similar to the german TITANIC and numerous other outlets. if you get offended by that shit, please take a long hard look at yourself. all Charlie Hebdo did was draw people's irrational fears and expectations, putting them into perspective. and of course a satirical magazine would focus more on islamism nowadays; it's what people fear, it's what people hate, it's what people can't understand or relate to.
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:21 am
by ultraspatial
i was saying the article mirren linked is subtly islamophobic not charlie hobo
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:36 am
by jrkhnds
I know, that's why I wasn't talking to you.
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:39 am
by ultraspatial
that seemed really mean lol
Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:45 am
by jrkhnds
sorry, didn't want to be mean to you.

Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:56 am
by faultier
jrkhnds wrote:and of course a satirical magazine would focus more on islamism nowadays; it's what people fear, it's what people hate, it's what people can't understand or relate to.
case in point, not saying they were a racist magazine per se (tho clearly the tone changed since Philippe Val became editor in chief), but pandering to people's natural inclination to xenophobia, even through humour (though imo even that is debatable, as wolf89 pointed, their cartoons weren't that funny and more taking cheap shots for the sake of it, imho bbq) aint exactly a rosa parks bravery move...