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Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:59 am
by tge
Sonika wrote:tge wrote:Even if Moombahton becomes the new it thing, there will still be a lingering taint on Dubstep, just look at DnB for evidence.
:edit: I'd argue moombahton is already getting warped as a lot of the tracks I've heard lately with the tag don't even feature the distinguished beat, and are instead just the same electro junk with a K...S...K...S beat played that 108bpm.
Haha moombahtons already being criticized for selling out/losing the original sound I see.
I wonder what they'll call the brostep of moombahton - moombahbro? Broton? Brobahton? Shit?
Moombroton
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:01 am
by tge
LumiNiscent wrote:Most people that I know who are into brostep just think that the stuff most of us listen to is boring. I understand that you might not be completely blown away if you hear the Goat Stare, but If people get bored with Badman VIP after 10 seconds I honestly doubt that dubstep is the right genre for them.
When I share traditional stuff with friends who are into Brostep I almost always get a "I waited the whole track for the drop and it never happened" response.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:03 am
by the_disconekt
I've heard the term moombahcore being thrown around.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:09 am
by tge
As have I. Thus far I have yet to hear anything with a hard enough edge to justify the "core" suffix though. If someone has something that might change my mind, do share.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:36 am
by wayfarer__
Soundcloud
starting to get there i think

Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:51 am
by Cornbreadddd
tge wrote:LumiNiscent wrote:Most people that I know who are into brostep just think that the stuff most of us listen to is boring. I understand that you might not be completely blown away if you hear the Goat Stare, but If people get bored with Badman VIP after 10 seconds I honestly doubt that dubstep is the right genre for them.
When I share traditional stuff with friends who are into Brostep I almost always get a "I waited the whole track for the drop and it never happened" response.
I hate that shit so fucking much man. I feel like most people aren't as musically intellectual (As pretentious as that sounds) as we are, they're comfortable with whatever is shown to them and care not to delve into a particular sound to explore it for all it has to offer, thus, brostep fans are conceived, and shamefully not aborted.
But, I must note, I'm all for someone who has thoroughly researched the sound of traditional 140 music, and really gotten to know the artists and the over all sound, but decided on the fact that they like brostep more, that's fine with me. It's just the people who won't even give the traditional deep dark sound the time of day and turn there back on it at a first listen, that's frustrating. It's just not commercial sounding enough, and they can't understand the concepts and techniques of space and minimalism in music. The kids that can't grasp something if it's not particularly catchy and flashy.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:59 am
by Sonika
I agree with that last part ^
You should give the traditional sound a chance before you decide that brostep is going to be your niche.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:27 am
by wayfarer__
I don't think people "should" do anything.
Try and universalise that concept of "always checking out the musical trends before" x genre - it'd go on forever.
I adore my dark tunes but I don't listen to any dub on a regular basis, nor do I listen to much dark garage.
I like techy drum & bass, but I've never really listened to much jungle
I like contemporary classical music - that doesn't mean I should research and listen to every piece of classical music ever written before the pieces I like.
"Most people" will always have bad taste in music to the arm chair wingers who sit writing elitist posts on forums. Frankly, I can't see why anyone gives a fuck - yeah sure it might be embarrassing when you feel you have to explain what you mean when you say you like dubstep and not brostep or whatever... but I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:37 am
by Sonika
Well, to me at least, the amount of ignorance can be quite frustrating at times, because many of these people have such a false, convoluted, distorted idea of what dubstep truly is, and it is very irritating.
Also, it's much worse in some places than in others.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:13 am
by sigbowls
i would make fun of them for not liking good music
theres always people that like the stuff you like
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:39 am
by leeany
I agree with what Cornbreaddd said, but on the other hand we have to bear in mind that not everybody is as deep into music as most of us are. Most people don't spend all day looking for new tunes and discussing them on internet forums like we do, simply because they are more interested in other things. I do think it could be good for our scene if the brostep fans got to know the traditional side, but I don't know if a lot of them find it necessary to do the research. I've never really been into jungle and therefore I don't spend a lot of time listening to it hoping that one day I will learn to like it (eventhough I did do my research on the genre), I'd rather spend my time listening to the music I like. I think it's the same with the brostep kids ; if you really love Excision and that's really the thing for you, why would you put in the effort to listen to Mala ?
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:23 am
by leyenda
LumiNiscent wrote:I understand that you might not be completely blown away if you hear the Goat Stare
If you hear Goat Stare on a system or even just at home with a nice set up/good headphones and you're bored at the second drop then really I don't think it's any different a situation to Badman VIP. There's no point even bothering sending dungeon or a lot of traditional dubstep tracks on YouTube to someone who you know doesn't have the right equipment to properly hear the track. You're better off just sticking to sending them something which doesn't suffer too badly from lack of sub bass like Burial or Martyn.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:31 pm
by hutyluty
wayfarer__ wrote: I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

this this this
tbh im getting more annoyed at the kids who discover "proper" dubstep and then about a month later begin raging at how stupid everyone else is for not being clever enough to like it too

Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:55 pm
by apmje
hutyluty wrote:wayfarer__ wrote: I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

this this this
tbh im getting more annoyed at the kids who discover "proper" dubstep and then about a month later begin raging at how stupid everyone else is for not being clever enough to like it too

That and this.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:18 pm
by ultraspatial
hutyluty wrote:wayfarer__ wrote: I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

this this this
tbh im getting more annoyed at the kids who discover "proper" dubstep and then about a month later begin raging at how stupid everyone else is for not being clever enough to like it too

+ listening to "proper"dubstep doesn't make you any smarter or superior in any way than others. Not every head has a PhD you know...
And fuck that "let's try to educate" mentality, like people into brostep or whatever are savages. It's all elitist and parentalist bullshit.
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Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:39 pm
by wayfarer__
large up the heads lacking anger.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:44 pm
by Lichee
ultraspatial wrote:hutyluty wrote:wayfarer__ wrote: I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

this this this
tbh im getting more annoyed at the kids who discover "proper" dubstep and then about a month later begin raging at how stupid everyone else is for not being clever enough to like it too

+ listening to "proper"dubstep doesn't make you any smarter or superior in any way than others. Not every head has a PhD you know...
And fuck that "let's try to educate" mentality, like people into brostep or whatever are savages. It's all elitist and parentalist bullshit.
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PhD's don't make you any smarter or superior in any way either.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:51 pm
by ultraspatial
Lichee wrote:ultraspatial wrote:hutyluty wrote:wayfarer__ wrote: I'm not into my music to get pissed off at people who "don't understand".

this this this
tbh im getting more annoyed at the kids who discover "proper" dubstep and then about a month later begin raging at how stupid everyone else is for not being clever enough to like it too

+ listening to "proper"dubstep doesn't make you any smarter or superior in any way than others. Not every head has a PhD you know...
And fuck that "let's try to educate" mentality, like people into brostep or whatever are savages. It's all elitist and parentalist bullshit.
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PhD's don't make you any smarter or superior in any way either.
Superior no. Smarter maybe, but yeah, not everyone with a PhD is necessarily smart. It was just an example really.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:05 pm
by tge
I stopped getting upset with people for having differing tastes in music a long time ago. When I meet someone who says they like Brostep, I hook them up with a mix of traditional sounds and leave it at that. If they dig it, cool, if they get past the first track and turn it off, whatever, I did my part in exposing them to it.
Re: The Dungeon Sound
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:43 pm
by maiden
yo yo, this is a mix i put together on my swag as fuck cdjs, its not what i would call that proper dark dungeon sound but its all deep and younsgta influenced so you heads should appreciate it hopefully. let me know what you think.
peace x
http://soundcloud.com/maidenrat/birmingjam-mix
------> Electric Church - Cymatic
Prophet v.i.p. - Lurka
Galactic Step - Icicle
Atom - Pressa + Crisp
Myth - TMSV
Clone - Headhunter
Sentinelese - TMSV
Uprising - Commodo
The Things They Left Behind - Kryptic Minds
------> Limit to Your Love - James Blake
Lower State - Gomes
I'll Let You Know - Paris Suit Yourself
Cold - TMSV
Icarus - Myrkur + TMSV
------> Grains (Myrkur remix) - Irrelevant