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mikef wrote:if you had traktor/serato/torq set up and then half way through a set wanted to drop an actual piece of wax is it just a case of flipping the switch on your mixer from line to phono?

or would you need to fiddle about with the wires at the back?

Nope, just the first scenario you described, exactly

Is Traktor that much cheaper than Serato? I thought they were the same price range...

I love Traktor(and Serato), it has it's advantages(that some people subconsciously see as "impurities"), you can mix tracks really fast, beat the hell out of a vinyl and not have to worry about its exclusivity, etc. These are all very tangible positives, while the supposed "negative" of sound quality, seems rather subjective to me in a lot of instances(not all, but many)

Is the difference between Serato and Traktor like the difference between Technics and Vestax? Just comes down to personal preference? Or is there tangible benefits from one to another? When I bought my decks over ten years ago I went for 1210s as they were industry standard and most places and DJs seemed to use them + i preferred the feel of them over Vestax, I'm hoping to make the switch to time coded shizzle and kind of automatically chose Serato as its the one everyone seems to use.

If they are similar in price and usage how do you decide?

I mix with two 8-track players and a crossfader I made out of a tuna can and some RCA cables.

♫♪♫ wrote:I mix with two 8-track players and a crossfader I made out of a tuna can and some RCA cables.

FTW

you missed out stanton's final scratch! they got a new one out.
it is able to take up to 4 decks, where as serato only can go up to 2 on SL1 (or 3 i think with SL3).

but in my opinion, Serato Scratch FTW!

HGLDT wrote:Yep for any timecode setup you need the sound card that comes with the bundle, timecode vinyl and the program.
I've been using Torq for about 6 months and I couldn't be happier with it. I play radio every week with it and out when I'm gigging and it works like a charm.
Definitely recommended

do you find that the volume of mp3s is way way higher than vinyl though? i have to turn the gains right down for mp3 - and inevitably forget half the time and end up with ridiculous volume jumps when switching between the two

max-freakout wrote:Ive been a vinyl DJ for many years now im finally facing up to the fact that the vinyl scene has mostly died out

Vinyl sales increased by 95per cent in the last year..... dont tell anyone tho,dont wanna kill mp3s

HGLDT:

So Torq's been good to you then? I've been thinking of
buying it in order to play dubs producers sent me out, but since I still buy and play mostly vinyl, the
price is a big factor. I've been told torq is not worth the
money and that I should save up to a serato, which is at least three times more expensive on ebay.
Have you had any problems with your setup when playing outside of your usual spots (home radio etc)? Fri
what I've been told, serato is more reliable than torq, but maybe there different versions?
I'd really appreciate any advice, coz I'd love to be able to play dubs out. I'm seriously considering pressing some to dubplate, but again, the money's an issue.

Cheers!

vinyl is alive and will always be alive - real shops going down, online shops poppin up
not giving up

serato = plastic sex doll
vinyl = having sex with real women

its a good substitute but will never be the same

Well, i own both (serato(rane ttm 57 SL) and traktor scratch pro)
In my opinion traktor is better, it seams to feel like a real vinyl, and you can spin 4 decs at the same time if you need that, some cool effects, and one great sound card (audio 8 dj - best soundcard for dj and producers 8in8out) it is a great software...

my vote is fo digital vinyl sistem over a vinyl, yeah, the vinyl is better sound and that, but, how much weight is 100 vinyls, and 200 mp3s?? + laptop wires, and soundcard. and how much of you play at the places where the sound qualiti if noticable diferent??

dj phonetic: since when is sex with a rubber doll "a good substitute" for a real woman, haha

about the weight, sure carrying 100 vinyls isn't a favorite, but if I'm doing a 1h set on radio or out, I'm not sure the 30-something vinyls I need will weigh so much more than a serato setup including a decent laptop (unless you're rocking the new slimmed out mac of course). I see your point, no doubt, and there's tones of pro's with using a digital set up, but to me it's strictly the fact that I want to play unreleased tunes, without the hassle of mixing vinyl with CDs.

Soundquality-wise it sounds like Traktor would be the way to go?