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Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:53 am
by alien pimp
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:and for the mockery to be complete - it's all payed with our cash
only firky should pay for these!
I genuinely would rather my money was spent on non-lethal deterrents rather than less-lethal ones. :?
I genuinely would rather your money was spent for your benefit not against you

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:42 am
by surface_tension
Not to mention, at a certain frequency we're not just talking about hearing loss, but death. Shit is no joke and they can really make it a bad day for you with that shit.

Sonogram and Ultrasound technology can fry you. They destroy tumors with that shit... imagine what it can do to your brain if they can destroy cells with that shit. And we're in a country where non violent protests are supposed to be constitutionally protected. We're well within our rights. Fuck if any group was ever more deserving of being mauled by 100k protesters it's the G20 world leader scumbag fucking pricks. Who the fuck do they think they are in their ivory towers deciding who will live and who will die... fuck em all.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:09 am
by magma
surface_tension wrote:Not to mention, at a certain frequency we're not just talking about hearing loss, but death. Shit is no joke and they can really make it a bad day for you with that shit.

Sonogram and Ultrasound technology can fry you. They destroy tumors with that shit... imagine what it can do to your brain if they can destroy cells with that shit. And we're in a country where non violent protests are supposed to be constitutionally protected. We're well within our rights. Fuck if any group was ever more deserving of being mauled by 100k protesters it's the G20 world leader scumbag fucking pricks. Who the fuck do they think they are in their ivory towers deciding who will live and who will die... fuck em all.
Did anyone else read this in the voice of Bill O Reilly? The Liberal/Left needs to stay on it's intellectual high ground instead of being so blindly reactionary otherwise we end up just as bad as the other side.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:02 am
by cyberneticghost
surface_tension wrote:Not to mention, at a certain frequency we're not just talking about hearing loss, but death. Shit is no joke and they can really make it a bad day for you with that shit.

Sonogram and Ultrasound technology can fry you. They destroy tumors with that shit... imagine what it can do to your brain if they can destroy cells with that shit. And we're in a country where non violent protests are supposed to be constitutionally protected. We're well within our rights. Fuck if any group was ever more deserving of being mauled by 100k protesters it's the G20 world leader scumbag fucking pricks. Who the fuck do they think they are in their ivory towers deciding who will live and who will die... fuck em all.

It was originally designed as a sound amplification device. It is a 155 decibel megaphone, not the death ray from GI Joe.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:43 am
by tr0tsky
I dunno about the rest of you but I've been tear gassed, pepper-sprayed and had a water cannon blasted at me that's had CS dissolved in the water.

Trust, that shit is NOTHING compared to the sort of pain I expect from 118dB.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:01 am
by magma
It's worth noting that at the G20 protests the "cannon" was only used to amplify voice instructions to the crowd, the "weapon" features are all disabled so there should have never been any worry about people's eardrums getting fucked up. Having said that, I'm more than aware that plastic bullets offer a pretty genuine danger of eyesight loss and death, as do the various gases (especially when you're dealing with people who's medical histories you don't know)... so a bit of variety seems like a good thing.

We won't stop the Police tooling up to control protests. We can hope they do it in non-lethal ways.... even if this move isn't a brilliant one, at least it shows that they're looking at some alternatives. It needn't be assumed that they're ramping UP their attacks.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:52 pm
by alien pimp
magma wrote:It's worth noting that at the G20 protests the "cannon" was only used to amplify voice instructions to the crowd, the "weapon" features are all disabled so there should have never been any worry about people's eardrums getting fucked up.
did you watch the videos there or you just mix up your imagination with reality again?

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:39 am
by neka
needs more bass

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:51 am
by magma
alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:It's worth noting that at the G20 protests the "cannon" was only used to amplify voice instructions to the crowd, the "weapon" features are all disabled so there should have never been any worry about people's eardrums getting fucked up.
did you watch the videos there or you just mix up your imagination with reality again?
I heard them sounding a siren... that you could hear from behind the device... that's not using "weapon mode", it's not focussed enough.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:48 pm
by alien pimp
so i guess the people running there like headless flies were just techno fans hating the reggae siren sound...

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:51 pm
by magma
alien pimp wrote:so i guess the people running there like headless flies were just techno fans hating the reggae siren sound...
Or because they panicked thinking that they were in proper danger?

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:20 pm
by alien pimp
it wasn't country music

so basically your point is the guys were so nice they didn't even started the weaponry, they just showed off a bit and based on that we can relax - they're top blokes, just liking to mess a bit with the folks at meetings when they had a few pints, nothing to make us think they will actually ever use that

this is the kind of fun that makes me post this shit here, besides wanting to reach the few people with a brain

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:23 pm
by magma
alien pimp wrote:it wasn't country music

so basically your point is the guys were so nice they didn't even started the weaponry, they just showed off a bit and based on that we can relax - they're top blokes, just liking to mess a bit with the folks at meetings when they had a few pints, nothing to make us think they will actually ever use that

this is the kind of fun that makes me post this shit here, besides wanting to reach the few people with a brain
You're such a pleasant person to talk with.

In one of the links from the article you posted, there is a full explaination of how it was actually used. "Weapon mode" was not turned on.

Has anyone come forward as injured? That would surely be the clincher for you? If people got hurt, then obviously something bad happened. All I've seen so far is a lot of people panicking.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:39 pm
by alien pimp
so i get it your answer to my last question is yes... :lol:

ps: you are among the pleasant guys to share a world with, especially when your vote and actions sum up to some incredible shit we live today, that influences the whole world and there's nowhere to hide from this crap without giving up electricity and hot water. so excuse me if i'm a bit fed up sometimes

i believe people making sense it's the first step to a better world and the opposite works just as fine

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:53 pm
by magma
alien pimp wrote:i believe people making sense it's the first step to a better world and the opposite works just as fine
It would help.

I'm not sure what the problem is with my line of thinking. You realise opinions are, well, matters of opinion, don't you? If you'd like me to blindly follow and believe what you say, then at least have the decency to say that's what you're after and I'll just ignore the threads. Everytime someone disagrees you have to jump in the deep end. You'd get a lot more positive reaction if you were slightly more reasonable with your "education".

You haven't posted enough in this thread to convince me of your opinion... so, sorry, you'll just have to accept it and move on if you don't want to talk about it like adults. I do have a problem with sonic weaponary being used against peaceful demonstrators and if you can show me some evidence (someone injured, official statement etc etc) that it actually occurred... yes, they played loud noises at them, but it doesn't look like it was in great enough volume or targetting to be considered a weapon.

Personally, I'm more upset about the gas canisters they threw about... but I suppose that's old tactics and so not so exciting to people who want to get carried away with themselves.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:13 pm
by alien pimp
always people who can't reason hide behind opinions
opinions can never be a substitute for reality
that's why, to loop back to an older point of view, your opinion over the color of the traffic lights can only keep you alive/kill you, it doesn't change traffic

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:16 pm
by magma
alien pimp wrote:always people who can't reason hide behind opinions
opinions can never be a substitute for reality
that's why, to loop back to an older point of view, your opinion over the color of the traffic lights can only keep you alive/kill you, it doesn't change traffic
What you are professing is an opinion just as mine. You choose not to wait for incontravertable evidence to believe something... that's not the way I work, but I understand why you don't feel the need for proof to believe anything... it loses a lot of the excitement when you notice Occam's Razor kicking in all the time.

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:42 pm
by alien pimp
my shit is verified, unless you can PROVE i missed something
while you talk bullcrap about what i do without being able to know about it - that's an opinion
focus on the article or on a post and try to spot the false assertions, not pollute discussions with ungrounded opinions

that's why i try as much as possible to not base my judgment on opinions, they're as good as untested medicine

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:00 am
by ST100
not even gonna lie.

the "bonfire of the brands" shit in your sig is really whack. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm gonna go play my xbox now while I'm wearing my big-brand (very comfortable) jeans. :D

Re: Enjoy the silence: G20 protesters blasted by sonic cannon!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:01 am
by alien pimp
and i need to feel affected or what?
shoot coca cola in your veins if you want