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i can see why there would be an instinctive repulsion to having dubstep in a 'chill-out' room at a night (probably due to the fact that it has been defined as a 'chill-out' room), but for me as long as the rig is up to scratch and the dynamics of the room are appropriate then i would have dubstep at any night and in the 18th room if necessary.

for me good dubstep on a very good rig detaches u from wats around. hence for me it doesnt really matter where, and in wat context the place is, cos i'm gonna forget that anyway!!

having read back on wat i've written there's a 70%-96% chance i'm chatting breeze, makes sense in my head though....

Baron_von_Carlton wrote: Alot of Drum & Bass heads seem to boycott Dubstep so putting it in the Chillout room would just reaffirm their attutiude that it aint as good.

Why does it matter what attitude they have got regarding dubstep? If this particular genre of music doesnt do anything for them thats fine, and as for the hate on DOA let them, it shouldnt particularly affect you or the music getting made in this scene so let them get on with it.

The Wiggle Baron wrote:I dont know what it is always DnB and dubstep that are associated. There are plenty of other genres out there...

My sentiment exactly

Acty wrote:yeh i understand what u man are sayin about wanted it main room, i just feel that it will, and currently is introducing a wider audience to the sound!

The room at renegade hardware was rammo all night and it was obvious that more than half the room wasnt a regular dubstep audience. Hospitality tommoro actualy has FWD putting there name to the room so surely any promotion of the genre is good ?!?!?

also i for one go to dubstep nights to chill out and smoke! thats me

certain tunes make me bop more than others but some ppl go on stoopid in raves.

it aint grime u kno

Thanks for letting me know. I'll stand still next time.

I fucking hate contemporary d'n'b and the misconception that a lot of people seem to have that dubstep isn't music for dancing to so I'm not exactly thrilled about this idea

CFour wrote:

Baron_von_Carlton wrote: Alot of Drum & Bass heads seem to boycott Dubstep so putting it in the Chillout room would just reaffirm their attutiude that it aint as good.

Why does it matter what attitude they have got regarding dubstep? If this particular genre of music doesnt do anything for them thats fine, and as for the hate on DOA let them, it shouldnt particularly affect you or the music getting made in this scene so let them get on with it.

The Wiggle Baron wrote:I dont know what it is always DnB and dubstep that are associated. There are plenty of other genres out there...

My sentiment exactly

I just dont think the two scenes mesh that well together and he's putting it on at a Drum and Bass night.I would prefer to see it played along side something like Detroit Techno or Dub.The hate on DOA dont affect me or the music being made,trust ive witnessed the bitching on there for many a year.Its just a good example to use to find out the general consensess of the D&B heads.

Nah. Dubstep main room, dnb in some next club

Baron_von_Carlton wrote:No bad idea.
Alot of Drum & Bass heads seem to boycott Dubstep so putting it in the Chillout room would just reaffirm their attutiude that it aint as good.Just read all the hate on DOA every other thread at one point had some negativity about Dubstep

ya for real.

Here's a funny exparament for you guys. google search the following.

"dubstep sucks"
"fuck dubstep"
"I hate dubstep"
"dubstep is shit"

Jubscarz wrote:

Acty wrote:yeh i understand what u man are sayin about wanted it main room, i just feel that it will, and currently is introducing a wider audience to the sound!

The room at renegade hardware was rammo all night and it was obvious that more than half the room wasnt a regular dubstep audience. Hospitality tommoro actualy has FWD putting there name to the room so surely any promotion of the genre is good ?!?!?

also i for one go to dubstep nights to chill out and smoke! thats me

certain tunes make me bop more than others but some ppl go on stoopid in raves.

it aint grime u kno

Thanks for letting me know. I'll stand still next time.

Ha ha ha all this time i was waiting for the verse to drop, muppet

robotic wrote:dubstep is not chillout - can't go into a chillout room. and who really needs chillout at a rave anyways?? that's what u do at home or in the park! so referring to it as chillout is just idiotic.

however, two floor-parties with dnb longside dubstep imo are essential for expanding the current dubstep audience. and yes, in most cases you would in this setting find dnb on the main floor and dubstep on the 2nd floor. but the point is not that dubstep is playing second fiddle to dnb (that's idiotic also), but rather it's simple economics: dnb raves still consistently pull larger crowds, some of which are bound to be there for some kind of appreciation of bass (hence the name drum n -bass-). these ppl might be able to get into the dubstep... ya never know!

one thing is for sure: according to the sentiments presented in this thread, it is highly unlikely that the dubstep floor would lose ppl to the dnb floor... so what's there to lose?!? we've done this 2-floor thing in berlin (without referring to the dubstep floor as chillout mind you), and it was a big success.... a triumph for dubstep!!

seems to me like some of u lot are being elitist on this....... . .

I'm really excited about this, we gonna have our first "dubstep stage" at a dnb party over here, which is quite a small room, but at least it isnt called chill out room, it is dubstep stage.... Im not sure what to expect, since those going to these dnb nights are av. 15-20 years old, taking pills all night long.. And these people really feel this music as "chilling". crazy thing..
and since dubstep isn't popular here yet, Im afraid the room will be empty... well, the few of us gonna enjoy it anyway,
will tell you what the reaction was from the kids..=)

sek [espionage] wrote:

Baron_von_Carlton wrote:No bad idea.
Alot of Drum & Bass heads seem to boycott Dubstep so putting it in the Chillout room would just reaffirm their attutiude that it aint as good.Just read all the hate on DOA every other thread at one point had some negativity about Dubstep

ya for real.

Here's a funny exparament for you guys. google search the following.

"dubstep sucks"
"fuck dubstep"
"I hate dubstep"
"dubstep is shit"

He he, third one down brings up Alex Bk-bk's blog "I hate dubstep fans" - hating on the hippies. Too funny

But yeah is mostly dnb, like no-one would've guessed

neeks

Acty wrote:neeks

Funny you should say that I was just fitting some extra ram to my computer when I got distracted by a picture of the new Intel Processor in Custom PC magazine. Have you seen how sexy they look? Phwoar! , who needs a girlfriend eh? Certainly not me, I've heard they dont like the smell of oxycute anyway , or my glasses which are held together with duct tape, i've had the since year 9, can you believe that?!?! Anyway the star trek annual beckons- Live long and Prosper!

Jubscarz wrote:

Acty wrote:neeks

Funny you should say that I was just fitting some extra ram to my computer when I got distracted by a picture of the new Intel Processor in Custom PC magazine. Have you seen how sexy they look? Phwoar! , who needs a girlfriend eh? Certainly not me, I've heard they dont like the smell of oxycute anyway , or my glasses which are held together with duct tape, i've had the since year 9, can you believe that?!?! Anyway the star trek annual beckons- Live long and Prosper!

I knew all that gangsta posturing was covering up something - is this you?

DELETE THAT PICTURE IMMEDIATELY SHONKY, I WILL AVENGE THE REVEALING OF MY IDENTITY BY STRIKING YOU DOWN ON WORLD OF WARCRAFT, OMGLOLZ L333333333333333333333333333333333333T.

Jubscarz wrote:DELETE THAT PICTURE IMMEDIATELY SHONKY, I WILL AVENGE THE REVEALING OF MY IDENTITY BY STRIKING YOU DOWN ON WORLD OF WARCRAFT, OMGLOLZ L333333333333333333333333333333333333T.

Found one of your baby pictures too - you got two dads I see. Interesting

The Wiggle Baron wrote:I dont know what it is always DnB and dubstep that are associated. There are plenty of other genres out there...

It has something to do with sweet Mary Jane.

nahhhh....

main room bizness, maximum bass!

People are going on about this all wrong. And I really don't get why everyone's going on angry. A couple of points:

1/ There IS some dubstep which is good to chill to, to kick back on a couch or to stand and revel in the bass and just meditate. Fuck me, if it was all party tunes, it would just be the mainstream dub but just slower tempo. I wouldn't book FWD>> to do room 2 if I wanted it to be a chill out room and neither do Renegade Hardware.

2/ DOA, this forum and every forum under the sun has a proper variety and selection of people on it. Some people cream over dubstep, some can't fucking stand it. Some are more vocal than others, some are plain dumb. If some one says it's heroin music with no vibe, they can do one. But if someone says they prefer to chill to dubstep and rave to dnb, what is the almighty fucking problem?

2a/ Stop focussing on the negative posts as well, there are fucking loads of posts of people absolutely loving and championing dubstep on DOA.

3/ As El Gato has pointed out, the best nights (for me and most people I know) is when the night or even the dj plays some fucking variety! Jesus, I love dmz and subloaded, but even I can't hack 4 hours of straight halfstep.

I'll admit, I cannot get rowdy on a dancefloor to Lata by Blackdown, but I fucking rate that tune and every tune has it's place, I would not expect Plasticman or Tubby to drop it in a hype set. But I love just standing swaying to rhythm.
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Point being, there's more and more variety in dubstep for it to support a 'chill-out' room (as long as it has a rig) and that's a good thing.

it's interesting gettin some feelings of d'n'b that side of the pond. Here I've always found the d'n'b rooms and events to be the cleanest. Meaning, you found the pill poppers listening to hard trance and house while the d'n'b room is mostly very clean. Sure, there's a bit of a meth problem in bigger cities but in my experience the d'n'b culture here is really passionate about the music and could take or leave the drugs. Alcohol and marijuana on the other hand... it would seem those are the drugs of choice for most d'n'b fans stateside as there aren't many raves left that don't happen in clubs or bars.

As far as elitism goes, junglists are the worst offenders as if it doesn't clip along at 175bpm or faster (jeezus) or have a two step dance friendly beat, it aint cool. I got sick of calling myself a junglist because most of those people really are listening and supporting horrible music. I have faith in d'n'b but it's mainly in the smaller faction of us who are interested in keeping it breakbeat and musical oriented. The hard styles don't interest me in the least. Just sayin' please keep in mind that there are quality d'n'b artists, and fans - we're just not filling up the clubs and buying all the music. Course this is personal preference I know some people don't like any type of d'n'b and that's cool too.

As far as dubstep only being dancefloor music... careful! Isn't this the same path d'n'b has taken? I've heard plenty of selections that wouldn't get me up and moving, but chilling vibing too none-the-less meanwhile there's the other side that gets me motivated to dance too... and only skankable? I think not. Use your imagination a bit, it is possible to brock the fuck out to dubstep, of course on certain tracks. Not that there's anything wrong with skankin mind you.

I can see the pitfalls of putting dubstep in the back room and the benefits. Sure it's getting less attention than the main floor but at the same time maybe you'd turn a handful of people on to it? It be better than not hearing it at all that's for sure. I can understand why people wouldn't want to for the reasons that have been given; won't get the sound it deserves and needs, fuels the average d'n'b heads fire that dubstep isn't as good. I also agree that one genre raves/clubs are quite boring. It'd be good to hear dubstep, house, and d'n'b at the same event, on the same floor. A quality open minded audience is needed however, which is a hard nut to crack...