Mad EP wrote:I think a lot of people do use spinbacks to cover up for bad mixing, but there are legitimate reasons for it as well.
Namely, if you want to switch to a whole new bpm (like by 15-20+). Sometimes a nice gradual shifting of the tempo over 10 songs is cool (and what I do in my live sets), but if you are dj'ing and want to drop a whole new flavor, you might want to build the hype less gradually, so you do a long spinback and drop the new track in a whole new tempo.
There are other methods as well- spinbacks are only one of many that a versatile dj will have in their arsenal.
Each to their own but I dont think a tempo change is ever a good thing unless you are playing some micky mouse music. Keep things smooth and progress the set with patients.
I thought spinbacks only impressed the under 18s tbh.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:33 pm
by deadly_habit
there's a reason i write tempo changing transitional tunes just for my sets heh
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:40 pm
by Littlefoot
serox wrote:its true.
No decent DJs who can mix will do spinbacks. That goes for all genres of music too.
I have been mixing for a while and the only people who do that are either kids, or people who cannot fix the mix. Dont forget people who are wasted, this is their party trick.
you've obviously never got a crowd hype enough, unlucky!
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:42 pm
by deadly_habit
yea the crowd really dictates rewinds, though much as on the fly sets i cater to crowd i hate rwinds. most bigger names do do them though
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:51 pm
by lowpass
I'd say I can mix fairly well but I do like to drop in the odd spinback just before a drop (after a tight mix of course) it can be used as a nice effect,
however please do not spinback ever with a cdj or serato for that matter. Digital spinbacks sound horrible, it's like somebody is scratching my ear drums with a rake.
my take on rewinds is if the crowd want em they will rewind it themselves, I just need to beat them to the deck before they can get their sticky beer hands all over my vinyl.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:02 pm
by gwa
I don't spin back and then bring the next tune in from the edge . That's waste, but spiining back a bar before the drop is great.. Maybe a few bars not just one
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:07 pm
by lowpass
gwa wrote:I don't spin back and then bring the next tune in from the edge . That's waste, but spiining back a bar before the drop is great.. Maybe a few bars not just one
I tried experimenting with how late I would spinback into the next track, for me I can only do it for like a second before the drop, don't really like anything longer than that.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:25 pm
by serox
Littlefoot wrote:
you've obviously never got a crowd hype enough, unlucky!
I have done alright playing all over the place.
Patients is key with doing a set that people remember.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:52 pm
by Depone
Better go ask this guy
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:53 pm
by Mad_EP
serox wrote:
Each to their own but I dont think a tempo change is ever a good thing unless you are playing some micky mouse music. Keep things smooth and progress the set with patients.
I thought spinbacks only impressed the under 18s tbh.
Mickey Mouse music? What is that?
As you said, to each their own - but I can't think of anything more mind numbingly boring than listening to an entire set of the same bpm. If you looked at crowds in a more mature manner than "patients", perhaps you'd find they are quite capable of handling solid foods and don't need to be spoon fed.
As far as being impressive - I never said spinbacks were, to under 18s or anyone else for that matter.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:56 pm
by serox
Depone wrote:Better go ask this guy
wow what a wicked video.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:03 pm
by serox
Mad EP. I meant "patience". Spell check does funny things.
If it is that boring to you maybe you are not feeling the records? a change of tempo does not make the difference from a good tune to a bad to or a set for me. You can increase and progress a set without changing tempo.
No one makes really big tempo changes in most genres of music. Dubstep, house and Techno are all around the same tempo.
When I say micky mouse music I mean shit that they call "mash up" or some people who are into IDm/EDM you can see big tempo changes.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:12 pm
by Depone
My previous video was a bad example.
Skip to 4 minutes... yes you can rewind!
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:22 pm
by serox
Depone wrote:My previous video was a bad example.
Skip to 4 minutes... yes you can rewind!
never heard of him, hes nuts, wicked.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:56 pm
by deadly_habit
serox wrote:
Depone wrote:My previous video was a bad example.
Skip to 4 minutes... yes you can rewind!
never heard of him, hes nuts, wicked.
wow really? he's a sick dj
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:20 pm
by Littlefoot
serox wrote:
Littlefoot wrote:
you've obviously never got a crowd hype enough, unlucky!
I have done alright playing all over the place.
Patients is key with doing a set that people remember.
I spin back occasionally, if the crowd, or the chat room on SUB FM want it they want it.
you're not they to indulge, you're there to move the crowd and make them happy, if they want to hear the tune in full, let them!!
pointless spinbacks are so waste, but thats a fact, theres nothing worse than a DJ being ignorant to the crowd.
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:41 pm
by webstarr
I wonder what eskimo dance or sidewinder would sound like without any reloads
AS i said earlier, its largely to do with the culture of the music & raves
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:00 pm
by phrex
DAVE RODIGAN IS A LEGEND!!!
Re: spinbacks on cdj's?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:33 pm
by __________
serox wrote:
spinbacks and rewinds are a laughing matter.
serox wrote:
Depone wrote:David Rodigan/video]
never heard of him, hes nuts, wicked.
LOL
spinbacks/pullups are possible on CDJs, but don't do it...they sound horrible!
