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Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:07 pm
by tripaddict
try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:37 am
by yamaz
K good info but what i want to know is how to create that awesome bass drop they use that i also heard in another movie. Any ideas?
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:08 am
by tripwire22
pm excision
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:01 am
by tripaddict
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:20 pm
by skyh
futures_untold wrote:
Just cuz I'm feeling kind, I'll give ya an example using Reason.
Fire up the Malstrom, set the oscillator to the Metalcans patch and turn up the index or shift knobs on Mod A. Play a few random notes and you should have some very very robot like noises
Now get to work ya tnuc and send me the results haha!
Wow, I really like this sound! Watch your box I'll send you whatever I come up with.
tripaddict wrote:try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

great idea, would be a good way to have some amazing samples. thanks!
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:43 pm
by tripaddict
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:21 am
by skyh
yes, you're right, those videos are excellent! I'm making some fun sounds on the subtractor now.
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:37 am
by tripaddict
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:32 pm
by johnthethird
Sharmaji wrote:seems to me like you could do some wicked sound design w/ a convolution plug in-- ie, space designer in logic. load in a sample of something mechanical and play massive, etc thru it.
http://www.spiritcanyonaudio.com/index.php
Got most of these packs. Good stuff. I especially like the ultra short IR's labeled as "Color".
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:50 pm
by yamaz
Ok but how do you make that gut wrenching bass drop sound they use in the new movies?
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:23 pm
by prefresh
excision wrote:you can just buy a portable mic/recorder and keep it with you/in your car and record random noises.
I agree completely, buy a cheap feild recorder and carry it around and record your day to day experiences, the rape the shit it out of with fx
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:52 am
by prefresh
tripaddict wrote:try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

is this a legit a statement?
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:59 pm
by marshy
prefresh wrote:tripaddict wrote:try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

is this a legit a statement?
My lecturer sued someone for £mill+ over this, and he can't stress enough that any sampling without permission is illegal. It's just that he's never heard of someone being taken to court over a sampled kick drum or a second long transformer sound. Doesn't mean they wouldn't if they found out where it came from though.
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:51 pm
by tripaddict
marshy wrote:prefresh wrote:tripaddict wrote:try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

is this a legit a statement?
My lecturer sued someone for £mill+ over this, and he can't stress enough that any sampling without permission is illegal. It's just that he's never heard of someone being taken to court over a sampled kick drum or a second long transformer sound. Doesn't mean they wouldn't if they found out where it came from though.
so 99.9% of dnb is illegal ? ... i dont think so
3 seconds ... i was told this by someone who's worked in the industry for time
and why is your lecturer still lecturing ... id be in the Bahamas
..... this is irrelevant n e way you should all be original
* and DJ shadow would be a very poor dude
i may be wrong tho ....
On November 20, 2008, electronic music pioneers Kraftwerk convinced the German Federal Supreme Court that even the smallest shreds of sounds are "copyrightable" (e.g. protected), and that sampling a few bars of a drum beat can be an infringement. [11]
.... nothing wrong with a white label or alias

Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:18 pm
by marshy
tripaddict wrote:marshy wrote:prefresh wrote:tripaddict wrote:try downloading a 'trial copy' of transformers and search for *.wav in the program dir
watch the film n sample it

as long as the sample is no longer than 3 seconds its legal

is this a legit a statement?
My lecturer sued someone for £mill+ over this, and he can't stress enough that any sampling without permission is illegal. It's just that he's never heard of someone being taken to court over a sampled kick drum or a second long transformer sound. Doesn't mean they wouldn't if they found out where it came from though.
so 99.9% of dnb is illegal ? ... i dont think so
3 seconds ... i was told this by someone who's worked in the industry for time
and why is your lecturer still lecturing ... id be in the Bahamas
..... this is irrelevant n e way you should all be original
* and DJ shadow would be a very poor dude
i may be wrong tho ....
On November 20, 2008, electronic music pioneers Kraftwerk convinced the German Federal Supreme Court that even the smallest shreds of sounds are "copyrightable" (e.g. protected), and that sampling a few bars of a drum beat can be an infringement. [11]
.... nothing wrong with a white label or alias

If you're using someone elses sound recording without clearing then it's breaking copyright laws, nuff said. If it's unrecognizable or short then you're just likely to get away with it.
And he earnt his £ before he became a lecturer, i assume he just got bored of spending money!
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:46 pm
by tripaddict
lucky git lol
he probably snorted the lot

Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:48 pm
by JimmaJamJamie
I made this song a couple of months ago trying to get the Tranformers sound (I use FL Studio by the way).
These were made from scratch just using the 3xOSC. As people have said its all about what effects you apply.
Soundcloud
Let me know what you think of it.
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:51 pm
by gravity
tripaddict wrote:
so 99.9% of dnb is illegal ? ... i dont think so
3 seconds ... i was told this by someone who's worked in the industry for time
and why is your lecturer still lecturing ... id be in the Bahamas
..... this is irrelevant n e way you should all be original
* and DJ shadow would be a very poor dude
i may be wrong tho ....
yeah sampling anything without permission is illegal. 99.9% of d+b IS illegal. DJ shadow probably gets his more recognizable samples cleared, but doesnt bother with the others. amon tobin is another who works entirely from samples, pretty sure most of those aren't cleared tbh.
with certain things its very hard to prove that it is a sample. other things go under the radar so to speak, most people in the position to sue those who have sampled illegally don't hear the majority of it. also for the most part suing these people would be pointless because it would cost more in lawyers fees than they would ever get back from small artists on independent labels.
but there are a few cases. i believe someone (some hip-hop guys) sued the prodigy for sampling an apache loop from their track. so howlett bought the rights to the original apache and then sued them. funny shit, dunno how true it is, but i hope so.
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:02 pm
by tathagata
About the bass drop sound, if you can find a double bass sample, especially a downward slide note, put it through the free Akaizer standalone timestretcher and fiddle before getting it in to Reason, sounds so so good.
Re: excision-style "transformer" sounds
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:07 pm
by screech
sick