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To much isnt good but hey its always nice to hear the odd vocal at the dance im really liking the War refix that Matty G did blissed out sub moods on that one.

jackquinox wrote:To much isnt good but hey its always nice to hear the odd vocal at the dance im really liking the War refix that Matty G did blissed out sub moods on that one.

but when there are so many types of vocals available / possible, its just a shame to have such an overwhelming emphasis on one type

i rate the Joanna Newsom remix Clouds did (apart from the lfo'd midrange synth halfway through), sick idea. more like that are welcome

Yeah totally love dem tune with the reggae vocals... Butcha, Under Mi Sensi (Cotti & Cluekid rmx), Burnin', Spliff Dub...the list goes on and on! They're usually tip-top and ready to brock!

However yeah there's a few that are a tad sketchy..

more death metal vocals please.

so just play the ones that are good, ignore the ones that are shite.

then these things will take care of themselves.

with any luck by this time next year everybody will be bitchin about how everything sounds like it came from texas

but really i am very often tempted to go the reggae route with tunes but only let myself do it once in a while

Parson wrote:with any luck by this time next year everybody will be bitchin about how everything sounds like it came from texas

metalboxproducts wrote:

Parson wrote:with any luck by this time next year everybody will be bitchin about how everything sounds like it came from texas

Yeah, that Dubstetson's been goin on way too long

I agree with the Mala angle. But lets not forget Skream - Raw Survival, that Hot Chip remix, the track with the disco riff at the beggining (begging your pardon Forum for forgetting track name). He's off somewhere new too.

J_J wrote:' 1 SPLIFF A DAY '

keeps ekaj away.

Just One Of Those Days is my favourite of these style tracks. I used to think Coki could really pull this style off well, but recent ones sound a bit uninspired to me.

UFO over easy wrote:

J_J wrote:' 1 SPLIFF A DAY '

keeps ekaj away.

You can almost sense the upcoming drama can't you

boomnoise wrote:more death metal vocals please.

dem not ready yet

When the man play rockers, the man play rockers.

death metal u say

i dont get all the complaints. the only one i've heard that i didnt like was:
Benga & Coki vs. Baby Cham - World War 7 vs. Ghetto Story (Clouds Mashup)
I've liked all the other one's I've heard.
Coki - Marijuana
MRK1 ft. Sizzla - I Got Too
Kromestar - Food
Cotti & Cluekid - Sensi Dub
There's so many good ones.
I'm not against using other things for vocals though so long as they work. Like that Clouds - Joanna that elgato mentioned it great.
I also love the one that samples Loving You. So far it's unkwon who did it but it kinda sounds like a Coki beat.

Parson wrote:death metal u say

http://download.yousendit.com/BD31EF197CD994F3

jackquinox wrote:To much isnt good but hey its always nice to hear the odd vocal at the dance im really liking the War refix that Matty G did blissed out sub moods on that one.

Yeah...that joint is tight.I like that warm,yet just right bright,hollow sounding sub and the fact that it stays true without sounding like basic reworking.

doxxor wrote:How do you explain the emphasis from a wide range of producers, djs and promoters on the following features: heavy subbass, use of reverbs and delays and last but not least soundsystems. All these are key elements in dub/reggae music so it might not have been the idea in the first place but it has developed into to something else since. So there might be a reason why some people have seen it that way.

It was also the foundation of Hip Hop,thanks to Kool Herc.But the concept of the sub-heavy bassline goes much farther back than dub.For example,in jazz the tuba or standup basses provided it,or in classical the timpani and bassoons.Dub just experimented with bass and frequencies more because the technology was new at the time.I have heard jazz that sounds like total subbass,yet it's actually the floor tom and a 18 incher.

The elements you mentioned are key in all music production,it was present in ska,then rockers,then reggae and dub.And it was also present in rock'n'roll.The Beatles were playing around with delays,finger-slowing pre-recorded tape for flanged effects,massive plate reverbs,and chopping/layering/reversing vocals,drums,and guitar parts way back in '66.And the subject of Musique Concrete has come up in the 'other music' forum.So I don't think it's so much a matter of people looking at it differently,it's a matter of what the artist or producer is trying to do.There is tons of sub heavy music out there and it's not necessarily derived from reggae/dub,though almost all electronic dance music is.

Shonky wrote:I think the thing that annoys me about it the most is that a lot of people probably aren't even aware of where the samples they're using come from. Loads of white kids from suburbia putting a few "Jah rastafari" samples over plodding dubstep beats - it is fuckin lame.

So true.It's the same here in the states with all the "Sublime" kids!They all think they are full on Rastas because they smoke pot.Some of Sublime's dubs were natty though.But still,I see that with Hip Hop and DnB too.

It reminds me of something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RinwrhmM_-M

If I listen to early Digital Mystikz, I hear a lot more respect to the original, but it's interesting to note that Mala seems to be moving further away from that influence as everyone else is picking up on it.

Agreed.I've said more than a few times that what got me into Dubstep was pretty much Digital Mystikz and Loefah because they had such a dubby feel.I'm more of a dubber,so it was right up me alley.But I like what Mala is doing now too.I think it's good to be varied.

Dubstep doesn't equal dub

Dubstep doesn't equal techstep or 2step either,but there sure are a lot of producers out there slowing it down and calling it dubstep!

Thanks for all the helpful replies peeps! you've definitely put me on the right path. For all the haters, don't you realize that subgenres of dubstep are unavoidable? If you don't like Raggastep there's plenty of other dubstep to listen too... so EZ UP!

Also...

Parson wrote:

Parson wrote:death metal u say

http://download.yousendit.com/BD31EF197CD994F3

Seriously heavy tune!

-Crendore