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Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:00 pm
by zephhh
Image

what else?

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:35 pm
by smutfist
thank fokk for that! now shimmy over to Lewd Recordings & buy our 1st release on that sweeet, sweeeet 12" slab of happiness!

:halfstep rave:

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:58 pm
by grime suspect
yussssss

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:16 pm
by miig
zephhh wrote:Image

what else?

pretty sure that's a cd!

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:26 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
if tunes pressed on vinyl were constructed using a computer and then put on the vinyl from a digital format what does this mean?

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:31 pm
by jolly wailer
I don't understand your question.

any and all music is superior on vinyl. especially computer beats.

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:36 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
jolly wailer wrote:I don't understand your question.

any and all music is superior on vinyl. especially computer beats.
but what does it being on vinyl add that isn't already on the cd the tunes are mastered from? :D

hehe

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:53 pm
by esfandyar
hell yeah!

sometimes I look at my vinyl and wonder what else I could have bought with all that money. its pretty much my huge sink, i spend somewhere like 200-400 a month on the stuff. but i also lay naked on the floor and cover myself in records.... i know you guys do it too. :t:

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:50 am
by kp mike
the people bigging up vinyl are usually audio-snobs

cd's ftw.

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:41 am
by koo
kp mike wrote:the people bigging up vinyl are usually audio-snobs

cd's ftw.
You may argue about vinyl's superiorness, but man, cds are just poop.

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:35 am
by notez_
esfandyar wrote:hell yeah!

sometimes I look at my vinyl and wonder what else I could have bought with all that money. its pretty much my huge sink, i spend somewhere like 200-400 a month on the stuff. but i also lay naked on the floor and cover myself in records.... i know you guys do it too. :t:
You've got issues. Your a rich troubled man

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:58 am
by nerve
Pistonsbeneath wrote:but what does it being on vinyl add that isn't already on the cd the tunes are mastered from? :D
You know how FLAC and Wave files are "lossless"? They're not. They're lossless in the sense that nothing practically discernible is lost in the myriad of zeros and ones. They're lossless so far as a computer will practically permit. A music file is a complicated reconstruction of sound using no or yes interpreted by your sound card: a digital translator that is only capable of as much as your music file.

Vinyl is lossless in real life. There are no gaps. There is no binary. Just a needle running over an infinitely reducible collision-free groove. Sound as sound is in real life, not a digital representation of sound. When someone bangs a drum head, that is sound. When a computer outputs a recording of someone banging that same drum head, that is not sound. It is a reproduction of sound. Digital is the latter. Vinyl is the former. Smooth as..

To answer your question, "What is gained by pressing music constructed in a digital environment to vinyl?" Purity of sound.

:i:

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:06 am
by prestonwatson
Hi Seckle,
I am a newbie who have just join today. I agree to your point that the CD sales are going down and digital is breaking records. Thank you for providing the link but unfortunately due to some technical reason, I am unable to open it. Anyway I will do it sometime later. But keep us update with such information ever. Cheers.

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:39 am
by Pistonsbeneath
EMANCE wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:but what does it being on vinyl add that isn't already on the cd the tunes are mastered from? :D
You know how FLAC and Wave files are "lossless"? They're not. They're lossless in the sense that nothing practically discernible is lost in the myriad of zeros and ones. They're lossless so far as a computer will practically permit. A music file is a complicated reconstruction of sound using no or yes interpreted by your sound card: a digital translator that is only capable of as much as your music file.

Vinyl is lossless in real life. There are no gaps. There is no binary. Just a needle running over an infinitely reducible collision-free groove. Sound as sound is in real life, not a digital representation of sound. When someone bangs a drum head, that is sound. When a computer outputs a recording of someone banging that same drum head, that is not sound. It is a reproduction of sound. Digital is the latter. Vinyl is the former. Smooth as..

To answer your question, "What is gained by pressing music constructed in a digital environment to vinyl?" Purity of sound.

:i:
yes but its probably mastered for vinyl from a cd in the first place and it cannot simply add sound that isn't there....

and it's made on a computer with it's sound card and that...

if all music was made using 100% organic elements and sound then yes...vinyl would obviously be better as it is itself organic and analog...but in this case it is the only part of the process that is and before every step has been digital...

so a wave is as lossless as vinyl can be given the process and indeed just lacking the crackle and his which i admit can be pleasant...

the main reason vinyl sounds different is how it's mastered

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:37 pm
by seckle
prestonwatson wrote:Hi Seckle,
I am a newbie who have just join today. I agree to your point that the CD sales are going down and digital is breaking records. Thank you for providing the link but unfortunately due to some technical reason, I am unable to open it. Anyway I will do it sometime later. But keep us update with such information ever. Cheers.
the article that billboard.com was talking about is from the latest RIAA stats released this week. read more here.
seckle wrote:
RIAA wrote: In 2008, it's reported that 1.88 million vinyl albums were purchased, which is the highest number since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking LP sales in 1991. Additionally, vinyl sales rose 14% between 2006 and 2007, from 858,000 to 990,000. And the sales figures for 2009 will surpass the number for 2008 with ease. In comparison, CD sales have nosedived over the past three years, from 553.4 million in 2006 to 360.6 million in 2008. MP3 sales grew from 32.6 million to 65.8 million during the same time period, according to SoundScan.

More people purchased vinyl records in 2008 than they have in almost 20 years, according to the Recording Industry Association of America.

Progression of LP/EP sales in millions

•$2005 $14.2

•$2006 $15.7

•$2007 $22.9

•$2008 $46.2

•$2009 $56.7
http://76.74.24.142/D5664E44-B9F7-69E0- ... EB6EF2.pdf

^taken from here below
http://www.riaa.com/keystatistics.php

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:21 pm
by djstandfast
fused forces wrote:
djake wrote:i love vinyl!

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:24 pm
by dubaholix
Vinyl FTW !
Just bagged all of these from chem :mrgreen:

Lilyliver / Out Of Touch 1
ATG035R Back Up (Love For The Music) [TRG RMX] / [AC Slater RMX] - [SAWTOOTH VINYL] 1
BLR01 Innami / No Charisma
BRK011 No More Tears / Eyl Booty - [PROMO]
COUNT026 How You Like Me Now? [Joker RMX] / [Solo RMX] / [Solo Dub]
DP034 When I Look At You / A.G.S.
DRUNK013 Beautful Complication / Chakra - [PROMO]
DTS012 NNTF 2009 / Ripe Banana / Run / Hide - [Inc Free CD Mixed By Jackmaster]
FUNKY005 I Know / Get Down
HDB024 Stash / Tarantula / Roller Skates
HDB028 Aidys Girl Is A Computer / [Kyle Hall Oats B So Deep RMX]
HEK004 Air & Lack Thereof / Sparing The Horses
HEK006 Stop What Youre Doing [James Blake RMX] / I Cant Stop This Feeling [Pangea RMX] - [10 INCH PROMO]
HES006 You & I / Router
HF021 Maybes / William / Vertical / Taps
HF06 The Knowledge / Like Sun
HFT009 Hyph Mngo / Wet Look
ISP001 Running Away / [Guido RMX]
MEDI011 Skys The Limit / Poltigeist
MEDI020 Head Butt Da Deck / Horizon
MINDSET005 Fading / Different Music
NONPLUS002 Watching You Feat. D Bridge / Tramma
OSRLTD003 I Am Metal Feat. Beans [Starkey RMX] / Lilyliver [Starkey RMX]
OTE007 Turning / Alabama / Could This Be
PIPS009 Leave It Behind / Forbidden - [PROMO]
POLLEN12001 Broken Harp / Broken Harp [Geiom RMX]
RAMP020 Hot City Bass / Sweat
RAMP025 Party / Alpafun
SMOKESESS8 Lost For Words / Deep Down / Wonder Why
SMR5 Neon Speech / Gold Or
STNSN003 Lounge / [Geoimix] / Atrium [Phaeleh RMX]
SYNKRO001 Closer / Just To See Her / Rooted
SYNKRO002 Every Day / Tell Me
SYNKRO003 Angels / Wasting Time /
THISISM009 Township Funk Remixes [Boy 8 Bit RMX] / [Mad Decent Mix] / [TRG RMX] URBAN005 Dancing Crows / Daydreamer / A Warning
WB010 Glitch Dub / Nocturnal
WRND001 U Cheated / Heartbreaker / Brock Lee Riddim
ZIQ231 Human Meadow [Boxcutter RMX] / [Ziq Mix] / [Luke Vibert RMX]
ZIQ247 Rawkus / Air Pie
ZIQ248 Industry Standard Pt.4 EP

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:30 pm
by rob sparx
Anyone know what genre of music is driving the vinyl comeback?

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:44 pm
by jay-mee
DUBAHOLIX --- wish i had your bank balance!

Re: vinyl sales see the biggest comeback since 1991

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:48 pm
by godflesh fiend
rob sparx wrote:Anyone know what genre of music is driving the vinyl comeback?
Interesting question.

I'd say it'd be Hip Hop and Electronic music mostly.