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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:38 pm
by sand leaper
Parson wrote:the people have ears let em judge

it'll just make the good tunes that much more valuable
It'll also make them that much harder to find, or even worse, they'll drown in the horde of generic releases by guys who just starting making dubstep cos they heard it was the new and cool thing to do.

That being said, I think the chance of this actually happening is a lot smaller considering that dubstep has nowhere near the same scope of popularity than say, techno (refer to the recent wave of popularity for "minimal") or house.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:51 pm
by parson
everything has a cycle and then more cycles

dubstep is at the beginning of an awesome one so lets enjoy the ride and not let prejudice against outsiders and noobs spoil that seen?

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:13 pm
by bob crunkhouse
why would any producers make a particular genre of music because they heard it was the newest and coolest thing to do, its not as if there gonna earn mega bucks by doing this. They make it cos they like it! what the fucks wrong with that.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:22 pm
by sand leaper
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:why would any producers make a particular genre of music because they heard it was the newest and coolest thing to do, its not as if there gonna earn mega bucks by doing this. They make it cos they like it! what the fucks wrong with that.
Because the trendster hype/cred dubstep has seen recently is appealing enough in itself. You'd be surprised at how eager people can be and how far they will go to be in with the cool guys of the moment.

And yes, I know this is a very jaded, cynical and ultra-pessimistic point of view which doesn't necessarily apply to the dnb guys making dubstep.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:25 pm
by bob crunkhouse
well maybe im not cynical and pessemistic enough, but yeh see what ure gettin at. What a sad state of affirs if people are actually doing this.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:27 pm
by kaizen
Pablex wrote:
Skrapes wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're getting at :?
the fact that a mainly dnb distributor now distributes dubstep,
all first releases of labels.
i got the feeling these are dnb people jumping on the bandwagon since everyone in dnb has a record label aswell.
bandwagon?........ gotta disagree with ya.... the nu-urban guys been on it forages with the dubstep, only reason why its happening now is cos they just moved offices!
and what wrong with a mainly dnb distributor dealing with dubstep.? what bout st holdings! take it you'd say same thing about them then?

ok its alll about next level

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:53 pm
by Kursed
Because we should all still be making oldschool no! that moved into jungle which in turn became dnb you know we all have to move on sometime man dubstep is the next step and in another 10 years who knows what the fuck it will be.

Re: ok its alll about next level

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:09 am
by bob crunkhouse
Tyrant wrote:dubstep is the next step and in another 10 years who knows what the fuck it will be.

3 step?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:09 am
by parson
tango is poised for a big comeback i can feel it

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:17 am
by kaizen
Parson wrote:tango is poised for a big comeback i can feel it
tango? as in tango and ratty or am i on some other planet lol

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:19 am
by -blade-
Parson wrote:tango is poised for a big comeback i can feel it
yeh tango is oversik!

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:19 am
by wicked sway
Signus wrote:Largin up Skynet, man makes wicked Drum & Bass not heard his Dubstep yet although I did know he was doin it
We have a Skynet EP forthcoming on Dubline Audio thats filthy. 8)

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:24 am
by parson
i for one am all in favor of a dance style emerging that invovles males touching females
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:25 am
by wicked sway
Kaizen wrote:
Pablex wrote:
Skrapes wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're getting at :?
the fact that a mainly dnb distributor now distributes dubstep,
all first releases of labels.
i got the feeling these are dnb people jumping on the bandwagon since everyone in dnb has a record label aswell.
bandwagon?........ gotta disagree with ya.... the nu-urban guys been on it forages with the dubstep, only reason why its happening now is cos they just moved offices!
and what wrong with a mainly dnb distributor dealing with dubstep.? what bout st holdings! take it you'd say same thing about them then?
Damn right. They distribute Flatline Audio, my dnb label and my dubstep label, Dubline Audio. Those guys are great people. And one of the best Distro's in EDM.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:27 am
by -blade-
Parson wrote:i for one am all in favor of a dance style emerging that invovles males touching females
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :B:

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:32 am
by wicked sway
I'm going to state that I Love dubstep, and thats why I started the new label which happens to have distro thru Nu-Urban. I also love DNB. Have been involved with it for over 10 years of my life. Dubstep was a breath of fresh air for me when I was introduced to it. I knew the instance I fell in love with the djing of dubstep, ...as I enjoyed mixing it better then DNB;... I must start a sublabel, and did so. Not to jump a bandwagon, but to be involved with what I love: Music, Djing, and Records.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:30 am
by rickyricardo
^^ Well said

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:30 am
by coleco
phurious wrote:I can't see what the problem is.

People want to make music and create, big deal.

There is no point getting all political and precious about a 'scene'. Everyone has influences and these are always going to surface in their creativity (nothing is original blah, blah, blah).

Dubstep isn't owned by anyone..it's free and open to interpretation.
:4:

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:43 am
by pompende
this raises an interesting question though, yeah? although there clearly is never going to be a credible argument that hype/"bandwagon jumping" does or does not have certain result--
i am quite curious to know to what extent derivative/mimic styles and productions might impede the appearance of forward/complex tunes, if they do so at all.

ultimately it is an emotional issue coz yeah it IS about love. which becomes especially tricky considering that there is at least a generation's-worth of american's who are unable to separate music from commercial application and mainstream "success."

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:03 am
by moldy
There's only one way to separate the "real" dubstep producers from the "bandwagoneer" dubstep producers...


























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