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Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:07 am
by whitelight
the acid never lies wrote:mercutio wrote:mephedrone is a truly horrible drug,completely changes people and is one of the worst drugs i have ever taken, cant recommend strongly enough not to take it.
Come off it! What drug doesn't 'change people' ?
You lot are a load of killjoys. Had a little bit once, it enhanced my night. It was fun. Who knows when/if I'll do it again.
There are far worse things you can put inside you for fux sake - it's not like people are supposed to use it as a meal replacement
Are you fucking stupid? Mephedrone is kinda like MDMA, only it's way more addictive, and can harm your body real bad in the long term.
When it comes to drugs, I'm really not the "don't do drugs" kind of guy...But for fuck sake, know what you're putting in your body.
I read that thread on another forum where that dude was saying that his kidneys were slowly dying and that he was feeling really really sick from frequent mephedrone use. He then said "so yeah...I'll just do it once more and then I'll stop"...
Wasn't too sur about it until I met someone who was pretty much living the same situation.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:04 am
by billuf
mcats rough
its just so easy to keep battering and at 6 quid a g online its well cheap too
been sellin it at 15, sold 17g on a tuesday night, without even goin out!
good times.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:26 am
by particle-jim
brainbug wrote:particle-jim wrote: but they will blatently make mephodrone illegal because of one or 2 horror stories
its not only "2 horror stories". research a bit and youll see that there are many serious concerns about health problems coming from consuming meph. WAY worse than mdma, absolutely uncomparable.
my point was that alcohol is legal and it kills thousands of people every year from liver failure but it doesn't get reported in the papers or anything while a comparatively new drug gets slammed... also i dont do mdma either, i just puff and have the occasional drink in social situations
collige wrote:particle-jim wrote:djacroama wrote:a similar story went around a few years ago about a person that died from drinking vodka redbull because the redbull sped up the heart and the vodka slows the heart
why not write about every instance of someone dying of alcohol poisoning and liver failure as well? its fucking retarded man, alcohol is just about the most destructive drug u can get and it's perfectly legal but they will blatently make mephodrone illegal because of one or 2 horror stories
Not the most destructive (heroin holds that title), but I feel you.
well obviously heroin is the most destructive but heroin is illegal for that reason while alcohol and meph are perfectly legal... that should legalize weed, that shit don't kill nobody, it's fucking hypocritical man
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:28 am
by elibomyekip
On a massive side note, methadone and GHB cause more damage to your body than heroin (when used on a continual basis), just heroin has rediculously high OD potential due to tolerances eventually building up to levels where you can't take a '
safe' amount (to combat withdrawal) without injecting a healthy dose of death.
And yeah, these legal drugs still cause waaaaay more damage than many popular illegal drugs, particularly MDMA which can be used responsibly and is probably the safest class A drug next to acid, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT and other psychedelics and tryptamines. That said, i'll continue to use methylone, but I've stuck away from mephedrone after reading the ludicrous amount of horror stories on bluelight. There's not much death news, but the vast talk of vasoconstriction puts me off. I've never experienced it on any drug, but then again I'm not a heavy drinker and don't smoke. Healthy circulation ting
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:53 pm
by SK3W3R
when people say meph changes people, its true, my freinds were all hitting it hard for a while
and theyv all become so ridiculously selfish, they dont hang out because theyre mates anymore, its pure because they just want to get fucked, itspure shame
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:18 pm
by incnic
elibomyekip wrote:On a massive side note, methadone and GHB cause more damage to your body than heroin (when used on a continual basis), just heroin has rediculously high OD potential due to tolerances eventually building up to levels where you can't take a '
safe' amount (to combat withdrawal) without injecting a healthy dose of death.
And yeah, these legal drugs still cause waaaaay more damage than many popular illegal drugs, particularly MDMA which can be used responsibly and is probably the safest class A drug next to acid, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT and other psychedelics and tryptamines. That said, i'll continue to use methylone, but I've stuck away from mephedrone after reading the ludicrous amount of horror stories on bluelight. There's not much death news, but the vast talk of vasoconstriction puts me off. I've never experienced it on any drug, but then again I'm not a heavy drinker and don't smoke. Healthy circulation ting
heroin is actually the safest drug Class A drug in a neurotoxic sense
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:24 pm
by elibomyekip
incnic wrote:elibomyekip wrote:On a massive side note, methadone and GHB cause more damage to your body than heroin (when used on a continual basis), just heroin has rediculously high OD potential due to tolerances eventually building up to levels where you can't take a '
safe' amount (to combat withdrawal) without injecting a healthy dose of death.
And yeah, these legal drugs still cause waaaaay more damage than many popular illegal drugs, particularly MDMA which can be used responsibly and is probably the safest class A drug next to acid, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT and other psychedelics and tryptamines. That said, i'll continue to use methylone, but I've stuck away from mephedrone after reading the ludicrous amount of horror stories on bluelight. There's not much death news, but the vast talk of vasoconstriction puts me off. I've never experienced it on any drug, but then again I'm not a heavy drinker and don't smoke. Healthy circulation ting
heroin is actually the safest drug Class A drug in a neurotoxic sense
Surely acid is? I've heard heroin is fairly neutral on the body, it's just the OD potential which makes it dangerous.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:31 pm
by thomas
Yeh ive heard herion is the more healthy illegal drug, although its rare (even 80 years ago) you would get anywhere near pure.
Is this meph stuff, the same as all the other legal pills/coke out there? I bought some legal acid but don't know if i should ever take it.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:45 pm
by elibomyekip
thomas wrote:Yeh ive heard herion is the more healthy illegal drug, although its rare (even 80 years ago) you would get anywhere near pure.
Is this meph stuff, the same as all the other legal pills/coke out there? I bought some legal acid but don't know if i should ever take it.
The legal pills are BZP, mcpp and other piperazine mixes. HORRIFIC stuff, comedowns like you wouldn't believe, horrific damage to the body, it's the stuff that's in all the dodgy beans and bad mdma these days. Although most stuff sold in head shops are just caffeine and herbal mixtures.
Not sure what'd get touted as legal acid though, must be a DOx substance. I've heard they can be rather enjoyable as long as you don't take too much, apparently more speedy feeling than acid. Doses of the stuff are like 1mg, so it can fit on to blotter, but you
can OD off it, don't take it at dangerous doses. I'd find out exactly what's in this 'legal acid' stuff before taking it then erowid/bluelight/drugs forum it up.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:58 pm
by beerz
seriously, mepherdrone is fucking waste. who ever says its not bad...
its so much more addictive than coke. u can bash a g off in an hour n its so cheap.bad combination. I've heard of people just becoming recluses on it and ye, it does shit to your circulation/constricts peripheral blood vessels.
stay away from it...i've made up my mind anyway and ye ive taken it on many occasions.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:05 pm
by Ham
Don't know how much of this has been addressed already, read the majority of the first page and just got pissed off.
CBA to deal with all the stupid replies but just a few clarifications and corrections
Methadrone is Bk-PMMA, very very dangerous substance and if confused with meph would kill.
Ketamine INCREASES heart rate and is considered a stimulant.
Heroin in its purest form is one of the most negligible drugs on the body in terms of harm. The harm is caused by the ROA, with IV being the most dangerous, the effects usually caused on ones life when overdoing it and worst of all PROHIBITION for leading to users not knowing what purity there smack is and obviously the impurity that dealers cut it with. I know no figures but I would bet that 90% of overdoses were caused by the person using the exact same amount as normal but just getting a good batch!
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:52 pm
by brainbug
Ham wrote:
Ketamine INCREASES heart rate and is considered a stimulant.
sources?
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:19 pm
by alien pimp
actually most suicides are committed with legal drugs, aren't they?
how much aspirin does it take to kill a man?
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:32 pm
by j_one
danoldboy wrote:Yup the war on Methedrone is well and truly under way, splashed across the front page of the metro is the headline "Girl,14, is killed by legal net drug". Apparently she took "Meow Meow" along with ketamine and had a heart attack. Not surprising really! Cue the usual public outcry mechanics and the urging of ministers to ban the drug.
Also, having used half the page for the net drug killer headline they then go on to say , on the same page, "Post mortem tests on Gabi have so far proved inconclusive"
wtf!?! Thinking about lodging a complaint for what it's worth.
Enjoy it while you can folks.
The online version of the story is here:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.htm ... page_id=34
Turns out she died of natural causes. Bet all these papers that blamed mephedrone or "legal highs" don't follow up though
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4796771. ... al_causes/
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:39 pm
by AntlionUK
fucking newspapers.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:42 pm
by DRTY
AntlionUK wrote:fucking newspapers.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:06 pm
by whitelight
Ham wrote:
Ketamine INCREASES heart rate and is considered a stimulant.
Yes...but no.
It does increase heart rate. But it's not a stimulant.
It's a dissociative anaesthetic. Increade in heart rate alone doesn't make a drug a stimulant.
Re: Girl killed by Meow Meow
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:29 pm
by alien pimp
AntlionUK wrote:fucking newspapers.