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pledge wrote:Does anybody no what the Africans wrote there drum beats down on.Did they use early versions of fruity when it was just a beat programmer or the hardware days of cubase.

They *are* still making music in "Africa" you know; and they're using the exact same cracked software you're using too

executive steve wrote:

pledge wrote:Does anybody no what the Africans wrote there drum beats down on.Did they use early versions of fruity when it was just a beat programmer or the hardware days of cubase.

They *are* still making music in "Africa" you know; and they're using the exact same cracked software you're using too

Yah its called peckham mate

pledge wrote:Does anybody no what the Africans wrote there drum beats down on.Did they use early versions of fruity when it was just a beat programmer or the hardware days of cubase.

pledge wrote:Does anybody no what the Africans wrote there drum beats down on.Did they use early versions of fruity when it was just a beat programmer or the hardware days of cubase.

lol

Cheers for the food for thought.

While we're on the subject, if an inspired producer were to try to make Afrobeat inspired Dubstep, my head would probably explode from musical satisfaction.

Lots of connections in terms of people treating dubstep like a ritual and succumbing purely to the rhythm. In the words of Mala, Sgt. Pokes the 'eyes down' business. Also the sense of community it creates, i would argue this is stronger in the DMZ style dubstep and is in a way related to African ideas surrounding music and art.

Also some connections between the 'Griot' culture and pirate radio as stated by executive steve.

Thanks to all for the ideas, i like the connections between repetition of syncopation/swing type sounds, buy anyone who would like to clarify exactly syncopation is i would be grateful. Based on my research it seems to be the use of off-beat rhythms as opposed to more structured 4x4 european music.

Any other thoughts are most welcome.

Also i find the statements Joe Nice makes about it being almost sexual sound, or at least deeply emotional and human, very important, so anyone with any links to sources comparing this to African rhythms i would be grateful.

I will certainly post any interesting areas that i look into.

needs more Atlantic imo

seckle wrote:all the best music, can be linked back to africa, if you go through the connections long enough.

how can bela bartok be linked to africa?
or vashti bunyan?

most good music can be linked to africa....not all

syncopation is like swing

boom bap boom bap=no syncopation

boom...boom bap. Boomboomboom bap=syncopation

or at least that's as well as I can explain it in text,

Good stuff man i get you know, just checking i am on the right lines, going to try to stay away from getting to engulfed in rhythms purely because as you say it is hard to express in words.

Any links to any afrobeat or afrobeat influenced dubstep is welcome.

Also is UK Funky rhythm drawn partially from Afrobeats? or is this me just finding similarities that are not there.

Safe mate, I do a Popular and World Musics course @ uni so I've tried to look at these kind of links before. One thing I'd say is look at some books about Dub music and other caribbean dance music like reggae, ska etc. A lot of influence for this came from Africa or so I've read and if your at uni the Music section should have a few texts on this. I think it'll be pretty hard to find many sources that explicitly say "Dubstep links to Africa" but you should be able to argue the links from a focus on rhythm as other people have suggested, as well as perhaps a ritualistic element. Perhaps worth emailing a few artists particularly the DMZ lot to ask them for their personal view. Nothing like hearing it from the horse's mouth.

Good luck anyway bro.

Cheers man yeah i am focusing on the culture at the moment, also a bit about the community type spirit.

Rhythmically i am making some connections, and also going through the Caribbean dub and dubplate culture that shares connections.

No idea how to contact DMZ or any other heads of the same vein.