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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:18 am
by forensix (mcr)
Alex bk-bk wrote:are you having a laugh? mary anne over actual DJs who MIX and decicate themselves to the music? you're delusional
are you saying the Mary-Anne doesnt dedicate (im sure that was the word you were after) herself to music - she is more dedictated than 99% of people who consider themselves part of the "scene"
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:24 am
by elgato
i hate to be soft, but this is a sad state of affairs
its a real shame when awards bring out negativity like this, they should be about celebration not beefing
i personally think radio is about more than mixing, broadcasting entails casting broadly, on which point no-one can test Ms Hobbes, nor for boundless enthusiasm and positivity (apologies if its rude, i never know whether its appropriate to address people directly or in the 3rd person!)
criticism is fine, but theres a fine line between that and cussing / disrespecting innit
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:07 pm
by paolo
elgato wrote:
i hate to be soft, but this is a sad state of affairs
its a real shame when awards bring out negativity like this, they should be about celebration not beefing
i personally think radio is about more than mixing, broadcasting entails casting broadly, on which point no-one can test Ms Hobbes, nor for boundless enthusiasm and positivity (apologies if its rude, i never know whether its appropriate to address people directly or in the 3rd person!)
criticism is fine, but theres a fine line between that and cussing / disrespecting innit
well put
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:32 pm
by spooKs
i really don't see how ms. hobbes dedication is in question...
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:17 pm
by loefah
sorry to get involved.....but....
'But yeh like i said i'm the cliche dubstep hater, right?. least people like me give all the we're-one-giant-family crew something to get outraged about. In case you're not clear about this, blogs are personal mouthpieces. We're not on the dubstep forum now.'
posted by alex bk bk last week on his blog. add below
http://dot-alt.blogspot.com/2006/11/bit ... l#comments
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:22 pm
by darqwan
Choose your words very carefully Mr Alex Bk Bk, Mary Anne Hobbs has supported alot of very good people over ther years on her show and some very bad people too. do you understand what im saying?
Bless
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:01 am
by d-code

cripes. i didnt know voting woz this exciting - its like eastenders or something!
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:38 am
by ramadanman
Alex bk-bk wrote:are you having a laugh? mary anne over actual DJs who MIX and decicate themselves to the music? you're delusional
gotta disagree with you there alex
the catagory is "best radio show", rather than best DJ
the amount mary anne has done is amazing, as well as the balls to dedicate an entire 2 hour show to one extremely underground genre of music!
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:07 am
by paolo
if there are any other mary anne haters out there i doubt they'll be letting us know about it

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:32 pm
by mos dan
elgato wrote:
i hate to be soft, but this is a sad state of affairs
its a real shame when awards bring out negativity like this, they should be about celebration not beefing
out to ramadanman and elgato for debating the point rather than just getting aggro; lord knows we all do it though - poax mate, you taught me after that dubstep vs grime thread to take a step back and chill - it's just the internet, it's just words. your turn now?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:45 pm
by alex bk-bk
sorry i guess i was out of line with the "having a laugh" bit
just a shame too not see an actual dubstep dj win this category as far as im concerend,
but n-type is winning now anyways
obviously strong opionions upset people on here if they're not in chime with the rest of the community

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:50 pm
by poax
Antagonist
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For other senses of this word, see antagonist (disambiguation).
An antagonist is a character or group of characters, or, sometimes an institution of a story who represents the opposition against which the heroes and/or protagonists must contend. In the classic style of story wherein the action consists of a hero fighting a villain, the two can be regarded as protagonist and antagonist, respectively. However, authors have often created more complex situations. In some instances, the story is told from the villain's point of view; in such a story, the hero is regarded as the chief antagonist of the story. An example of this is the Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner cartoons.
More often, stories simply do not have characters that are readily identifiable as most heroic or villainous. Instead, the antagonist becomes that character, group, or sometimes force which provides the chief obstruction to the protagonist or "main character" of the story. Note that the antagonist is not necessarily human; often, the forces of nature or psychological elements provide this element of opposition.
The protagonist-antagonist relationship is also sometimes ambiguous. For instance, in the story of Moby-Dick by Herman Melville, the antagonist may be regarded as the whale "Moby Dick" of the title, against which the story's leading character Captain Ahab strives. Yet Captain Ahab is not actually the protagonist of the story[citation needed], as it is told from the point of view of the narrator Ishmael. Indeed, it is also valid to look at Captain Ahab as the antagonist, with his fanaticism the force with which protagonist Ishmael must cope.
Antagonist = "the bad guy"
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:51 pm
by forensix (mcr)
Alex bk-bk wrote:
obviously strong opionions upset people on here if they're not in chime with the rest of the community

only if they question the dedication of someone who is well liked and has helped to get the scene to where it is today
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:56 pm
by alex bk-bk
ok
you guys be the heroes
theres a lot about dubstep i love. when i mention the things i dont like you pick up on it and shout me down. so be it. i'm not gonna hi-jack this topic any further. may the best radio show win
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:48 pm
by ramadanman
Nah mate it's not that - i've seen what's happened previously with like dan saying how he didnt like coki's marijuana refix and he got shouted down, and that annoyed me as well
i dunno, this just feels a bit more personal...
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:04 pm
by mos dan
ramadanman wrote:Nah mate it's not that - i've seen what's happened previously with like dan saying how he didnt like coki's marijuana refix and he got shouted down, and that annoyed me as well

i know! i actually said i loved the tune - for a good long while - but i'd eventually got bored of it by hearing it rinsed (and rewound) so many times. apparently that was a fatal attack on the heart of dubstep and everything it stood for lol.
hold tight the siege mentality crew.
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:11 pm
by elgato
Its so much about the phrasing, tone and place. I thought the stuff on that tropical blog was absolutely fine, it was opinion, it didn’t read (to me) as aggressive or needlessly antagonistic. But something like this is so different to me. The place… a thread which should be about celebrating. The tone and phrasing… antagonistic and slightly insulting. And the main thing is, for Mary Anne Hobbes, how would it feel to read that? Pretty dry I would imagine, like in one fell swoop so much positivity that she’s brought has been undermined by something really a bit minor (especially given the category).
In general, I rate having voices of dissent, but for me those voices should be respectful and constructive…
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:32 pm
by jample
this forum is the equivalent of autistic men wanking in to a bowl. yawn.
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:34 pm
by corpsey
jample wrote:this forum is the equivalent of autistic men wanking in to a bowl. yawn.
You seem to have a jaded attitude towards autistic men wanking into a bowl. When did the excitement die for you?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:36 pm
by forensix (mcr)
mos dan wrote:
hold tight the siege mentality crew.
hold tight the high and mighty crew