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drokkr wrote:Stay inside the lines but go outside the box. Drink tea. Don't only listen to Dubstep. Experiment, you may not enjoy writing Dubstep. Drink tea. Hate Psytrance. Get insomnia. Forget to leave the house. Leave the house. Eat kebab pizza. Use Google. Use a condom. Drink tea. Go to gigs. Take drugs. Don't take drugs. Listen to Dubstep. Sleep. Run to the shop. Be nice to your Mum. Don't go to gigs. Hate Simon Cowell. Drink beer.

tavravlavish wrote:dont need shit batty boi

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

pets bud wrote:

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

1st place to look for you is Wikipedia. Look up Dubstep and 2 Step and Brostep and Clownstep...

And any other term you might be unfarmiliar with.

mindcontrol wrote: also I didn't really get an answer to a question I asked before
do people use breaks or loops as a basic template for a drum pattern they are going to use?

IMO, you're going about it wrong. The answer for now is Just Do It. If you want to find out more on a topic, pick one as it comes up, something you're dealing with *right now*. Not something you'll deal with later. Don't let study get in the way of doing it. I know from failed experience that books do not replace experimentation and practice.

But, apologies if I'm misunderstanding your intent.

However, regarding reading:
If you're new to making computer based music, I suggest your first reading should be MANUALS. Your DAW's manual, first and foremost. After that, if you think it'd help, a book on mastering your chosen DAW. Mastery of your DAW helps more than study in other production facets, in my opinion.

Since it's on the list, I'm compelled to mention that I'm a fan of music theory, but it wont help your here. Skip music theory, look into that later, if it ever becomes relevant.

Most of the drum-related topics you mentioned don't require reading, just a bit of monkeying around with drum patterns. If you want to really focus on getting very intuitive with cadences and timings, I'd suggest copying other songs who's rhythms you like. Just as an exercise to better understand what you're hearing.

One of the things I found over time is that there's a few 'illusions' that the average listener perceives, and it makes a rhythm sound more complicated or special than it actually is, in terms of pattern. Often, it's mixing and processing 'tricks' that are coloring it's vibe, even though it may seem as if it's the rhythm at first.

Regarding patterns, there's many means of making your drum timings. I think most simply use a sampler, trigger via midi, and experiment with swing quantization where needed.

In some music styles, pre-existing loops get used a bit, but I doubt that happens so much in dubstep, except on perhaps filler percussion like shakers or congas and whatnot. The meat & potatoes - kicks, snares, hats - are usually manually placed.

Sometimes people take a pre-existing loop, cut it up in their sequencer, and shift around the slices for something they like better. That was common in D&B, ala stuff like the apache and amen break, etc. Probably doesn't work as well in dubstep, though, except on filler percussion elements.

Here is a compilation of many excellent resources in one place.
Don't be fooled by the host site's trance focus. Trance, dubstep, techno, whatever, they all use the *SAME* techniques. Genre does not matter

collige wrote:none

mindcontrol wrote:got a good response may relate to some of you

IMO, you're going about it wrong. The answer for now is Just Do It. If you want to find out more on a topic, pick one as it comes up, something you're dealing with *right now*. Not something you'll deal with later. Don't let study get in the way of doing it. I know from failed experience that books do not replace experimentation and practice.

But, apologies if I'm misunderstanding your intent.

However, regarding reading:
If you're new to making computer based music, I suggest your first reading should be MANUALS. Your DAW's manual, first and foremost. After that, if you think it'd help, a book on mastering your chosen DAW. Mastery of your DAW helps more than study in other production facets, in my opinion.

Since it's on the list, I'm compelled to mention that I'm a fan of music theory, but it wont help your here. Skip music theory, look into that later, if it ever becomes relevant.

Most of the drum-related topics you mentioned don't require reading, just a bit of monkeying around with drum patterns. If you want to really focus on getting very intuitive with cadences and timings, I'd suggest copying other songs who's rhythms you like. Just as an exercise to better understand what you're hearing.

One of the things I found over time is that there's a few 'illusions' that the average listener perceives, and it makes a rhythm sound more complicated or special than it actually is, in terms of pattern. Often, it's mixing and processing 'tricks' that are coloring it's vibe, even though it may seem as if it's the rhythm at first.

Regarding patterns, there's many means of making your drum timings. I think most simply use a sampler, trigger via midi, and experiment with swing quantization where needed.

In some music styles, pre-existing loops get used a bit, but I doubt that happens so much in dubstep, except on perhaps filler percussion like shakers or congas and whatnot. The meat & potatoes - kicks, snares, hats - are usually manually placed.

Sometimes people take a pre-existing loop, cut it up in their sequencer, and shift around the slices for something they like better. That was common in D&B, ala stuff like the apache and amen break, etc. Probably doesn't work as well in dubstep, though, except on filler percussion elements.

Here is a compilation of many excellent resources in one place.
Don't be fooled by the host site's trance focus. Trance, dubstep, techno, whatever, they all use the *SAME* techniques. Genre does not matter

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

abZ wrote:

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

Forget about 2 step, it's all about the 3 step these days.

abZ wrote:

mindcontrol wrote:whats this 2 step business

Forget about 2 step, it's all about the 3 step these days.