a lot of dubstep is pretty psychdelic really, but which producers are definetly taking drugs to make music to take drugs to?
(dont do drugs, doggies!)
spacemen 3 reference?
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:26 pm
by bumbum
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
cliche sucks, but coki - it or whatever it's called whit it's sample "original ganja smokin'" is fucking badass
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:41 pm
by apfelsaft
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots. I don't think we could have dubstep today without drugs (or congo natty, who was definately mashed off his tits to spend god knows how long flipping those breaks to and fro )
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:16 pm
by serox
yellowhighlighter wrote:drugs are for people who can't make conversation or imagination.
That comment sounds like it comes from someone who could not imagine what drugs are like.
Loads of people make music on one drug or another in all genres. It was how music started and how it will continue.
I have heard how many producers back in the day were absolutely fucked on drugs when they came up with THAT hook.
For example, Joey Beltram has said he was fucked on MDMA when he came up with the melody for Energy Flash.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:43 pm
by tripwire22
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
agreed 100 percent. also to that post above your being way to general by saying all the most creative artists prolly do drugs. The way your precieve things leading to your creativity can be affected by many things.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:08 pm
by wrexile
yellowhighlighter wrote:drugs are for people who can't make conversation or imagination.
... Am I the only one who finds it very difficult to have conversations on a hallucinogenic drug?
It's all mumble & bumbling
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:12 pm
by yellowhighlighter
jesus hell i was being sarcastic. everybody thinks that they know that music and drugs go hand and hand.
smoking weed or eating mushrooms is not like getting an injection of creativity. it merely is an injection of a fresh set of ears and eyes. you get to see things differently for a while. that can be a good or bad thing. this can lead you to be more creative, or it can lead to you making something incredibly retarded that you think is amazing.
when i'm sitting around smoking with people i always feel like punching the idiots who defend their drug use. everybody knows a couple of people like this. the free the weed, militant drug user type, heavy into experimentation. the type of person that has let this little part of their personality define them. the sort of idiots who come in with a load of shit that they read on the internet about how drugs are good for you and how we need to sync up dark side of the moon and the wizard of oz because it's mind blowing.
god i hate those people.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:15 pm
by tripwire22
yellowhighlighter wrote:jesus hell i was being sarcastic. everybody thinks that they know that music and drugs go hand and hand.
smoking weed or eating mushrooms is not like getting an injection of creativity. it merely is an injection of a fresh set of ears and eyes. you get to see things differently for a while. that can be a good or bad thing. this can lead you to be more creative, or it can lead to you making something incredibly retarded that you think is amazing.
when i'm sitting around smoking with people i always feel like punching the idiots who defend their drug use. everybody knows a couple of people like this. the free the weed, militant drug user type, heavy into experimentation. the type of person that has let this little part of their personality define them. the sort of idiots who come in with a load of shit that they read on the internet about how drugs are good for you and how we need to sync up dark side of the moon and the wizard of oz because it's mind blowing.
god i hate those people.
i got 2 friends like this. i ignore their calls to hang out they bring like half an ounce of weed with them everywhere. weed is their life. cept other dude loves ecstasy and coke
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:22 pm
by Depone
apfelsaft wrote:
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots. I don't think we could have dubstep today without drugs (or congo natty, who was definately mashed off his tits to spend god knows how long flipping those breaks to and fro )
I actually love congo natty, but dubstep isnt jungle. Sure it has elements, but to say that "Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots" is a bit of a long leap. After all Liquid dnb isnt oldskool hardcore is it? they started from the same scene, but they are two different breeds.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:41 pm
by wayoftheworld
im not really looking for an ethical discussion of drug use, im looking for the most drugged up, mind altering, stoned and psychedelic dubstep to get me out of my gourd.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:43 pm
by wayoftheworld
narcissus wrote:can we just talk about trippy music instead?
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:55 pm
by Blue Patterns
I'd say FaltyDL. Crazy shit.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:07 pm
by ruckus49
marchmellow- reel simple.
one of my favorite dubstep tracks and it always reminds me of acid trips. you know when you feel like you are literally part of all the instruments and that you are creating each note?
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:57 pm
by christthetiger
eops wrote:Read the post before you moralise - he asked a perfectly legit question and signed off with a disclaimer that you shouldnt do drugs -
actually he edited that after i laughed at him.
of course drugs can make music sound cooler. and im glad i used to do them.
but nowadays i can listen to a bunzer0 set or ramadanman and be sooo deep in the zone, its like ive taken the bombest shit ever.
the best drug: sub-bass.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:40 pm
by narcissus
christthetiger wrote:
eops wrote:Read the post before you moralise - he asked a perfectly legit question and signed off with a disclaimer that you shouldnt do drugs -
actually he edited that after i laughed at him.
of course drugs can make music sound cooler. and im glad i used to do them.
but nowadays i can listen to a bunzer0 set or ramadanman and be sooo deep in the zone, its like ive taken the bombest shit ever.
the best drug: sub-bass.
dude, agreed... i'm ridiculously addicted to bass. i ain't done acid in over a month and i trip out every time i hear a huge bassline..
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:47 pm
by wirez
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
You're not alone
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:52 pm
by cyberneticghost
bumbum wrote:
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
cliche sucks, but coki - it or whatever it's called whit it's sample "original ganja smokin'" is fucking badass
Coki - Burnin is surely an exception to this.
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:57 pm
by wirez
kejk wrote:it's not like everyone who takes drugs is a junkie
I beg to differ, from what I've noticed they might as well be. I did my 7 years of smoking weed and can officially say it did fuck all for my life except make me a loser for those 7 years.. All my 'mates' who smoked with me who haven't given up are now coke heads who want to fuck everybody over, no ambition in life and only ring you when you want something... So in my experience, everyone who takes drugs has a subconscious mind frame of a junkie.
djaccel wrote:There's actually research that shows that intelligence increases the likelihood of experimenting with substances.
I believe this, but only because I've read into shamanism and the like so much, as much as I'm tempted to take a spirit journey using hallucinogenic substances, I think I'll refrain. All your research shows is that people have temptations when they know enough about something, not that taking drugs is in any way good for creativity. I have issues with paranoia so I know that drugs aren't for me anymore, if I even have a bit of hash cake it will send me into a night of VERY bad trips of paranoia and panic attacks.
In all honesty, I find it hard to believe that drugs are good for creativity and the like. At the end of the day, I have a very vivid imagination and I sometimes dream up amazing orchestras and all sorts, yet it doesn't make it any easier to make in reality. Why would a drug trip be any different?
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:03 pm
by wirez
Depone wrote:
apfelsaft wrote:
Depone wrote:All to their own. Personally i cant stand the stigma of drugs (weed in particular) in dubstep. When someone drops a weed reference in their track i just think 15 year old boy who should grow up. Smoke weed, by all means, just dont make it so fucking cliche.
Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots. I don't think we could have dubstep today without drugs (or congo natty, who was definately mashed off his tits to spend god knows how long flipping those breaks to and fro )
I actually love congo natty, but dubstep isnt jungle. Sure it has elements, but to say that "Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots" is a bit of a long leap. After all Liquid dnb isnt oldskool hardcore is it? they started from the same scene, but they are two different breeds.
If you feel it makes sense to take Dubsteps roots all the way back to Dub, you should look into the Dub don (the one that didn't get shot) Lee Scratch Perry, and look at his opinion on drugs since he gave them up. He basically now classes the music he made one drugs as the devils music and had to make 'clean' music to redeem himself (and even his fans)!
Re: most hallucinogenic
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:00 pm
by Sharmaji
apfelsaft wrote:
Ganja references in ragga and then ragga jungle are a big part of dubstep's roots. I don't think we could have dubstep today without drugs (or congo natty, who was definately mashed off his tits to spend god knows how long flipping those breaks to and fro )
Shit,that's not a reference-- that's congo's rmx of junior murvin! that's 100% militant nyabinghi material there.
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