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I hate dubstep nowadays, but yesterday I was playing through Benga's Invasion, and early Horsepower/Mala/Skream/Hatcha/Youngsta and realised the shit we've got today is just a completely different - awful - genre. Had to be too good to be true.

i used to like music but then i was like "no it's all shit 'cause you all listen to music" so now i don't listen to music 'cause i'm cooler than you

tomm wrote:i used to like music but then i was like "no it's all shit 'cause you all listen to music" so now i don't listen to music 'cause i'm cooler than you

UR NOT DOING IT RITE.

wat the fuk is dubstep

frank u wantin slapped?

tomm wrote:i used to like music but then i was like "no it's all shit 'cause you all listen to music" so now i don't listen to music 'cause i'm cooler than you

Im cooler that you because im deaf...

faust.dtc wrote:

stayc wrote:I've passed the dubstep phaze. I used to like it now i don't... But i still like you ninjas well...most of you ^_^

Id hate dubstep to just be a 'phase', as a music with stirs emotions in me I wouldnt want to move on fromit...

Do you not like it becasue of the type of dubstep that is being made today or do you not even still enjoy the type of dubstep you used to listen to???

It's the sort of thing where I'm not as pleased as I used to be with it. There's a few odd dubstep tracks ill listen to but that's as far as it goes. If i hear a Dubstep tune somewhere, it's easier for me to say "I dont like it" than to say that i do.
The whole fact of it getting too popular and having too many arguments with chavvy little boys about 'who's been on dubstep for longer' from when I was listening dubstep before you knew what bread was, don't speak to me.

Depends on what's considered "dubstep" these days.

The early sparse, minimal stuff with droning subs just kinda bores me anymore. The aggressive brostep stuff irritates me. But, there's SO much stuff under that massive, vague "dubstep" moniker umbrella that I'm finding amazing lately. I don't know that the must-label-everything collective would group something like Eskmo in the same genre boat as Loefah circa 2005, but new, forward-thinking 140bpm-ish bass music hasn't ceased to blow my mind at all.

Went to a post-impressionists exhibition the other day
found some Degas (an example of impressionist antecedents), Cezanne, Toulouse-Lautrec & Redon fascinating,
Van Gogh's radical but technically poor executions, pointillists' & Bernard's revolutionary insights but boring images,
Vuillard progressive, Gaugin inventive etc etc.

As I walked through the chronological sequencing of the movement's birth-climax-disassociation over 10 years or so,
I was drawing parallels with dubstep...not by finding equivalents between post-impressionist painters & ds producers
but more in terms of the similarity between the development of painting & the evolution of a sound..
The works of the four artists I originally listed, at different times within Post-Impressionism, exemplify skill,
artistry & subtlety and yet each of the artists has a different aesthetic and purpose. All they have in common
is paint & the release from tradition.
Some artists still create in this spirit.

The relatively sudden onset of dubstep amongst a few illuminaries has left us some rough diamonds whose
freshness was, at the time, inspiring. A few tracks were the equivalent of Degas' masterful drawing & melding of colour. Others were freed to create shadows that moved, warmth that shattered, coolth that shuddered. Some, tottering on the edge of psychosis, emptied their souls into riotous invention or depicted their dreams of spirits & demons. From garage, dub, house, punk & metal the musicians listened & dancers moved.

Nearby producers heard little bits as yet unsaid or imperfectly constructed & made derivative but incrementally cleaner interpretations. But the initial charm & rawness were being polished off. Occasionally a producer was still hearing the essence & voicing it with idiosyncratic beauty.

Eventually the fuss in galleries & basements, the relaxed accommodation of all comers, overcame the inertia of those chasing the new and, in turn, those marketing the new. Dubstep became fashionable.

Known artists, whose musical authority was being questioned or undermined, needed to restablish their creedence. Dubstep was swamped with interpretations, leading it in directions that made a commonality harder to discern.
Gaps were filled, aspects taken to extreme, moments appropriated.
Steppas stepped up or stepped back. A few step forward.

* * *

but as to the question: do i not like dubstep?
answer: sometimes, like last year, i didn't like it but i will always love it, for what it was & what it can be. I still rarely listen to anything else because it usually sounds vacuous. On the other-hand, a lot of what i hear at gigs is boring, even irritating, because it is catering to punters who want to hear ds-flavoured lollymusic.

I just start to hate brostep:

if you play all the tunes made by excision or datsik, you'll see that they're all built from the same bricks, everytime the same formula...
and it really shows if someone has a lack of originality, especially with all those people who are jumping the "filthiest" bandwagon.

leave dubstep alone

fretn wrote:leave dubstep alone

yehhhhh

Not really bored with dubstep yet cos theres still alot of good output. Now the scene has split up into its seperate parts, you can dip into each one and just find the bits you like. Plus its always good to go back to tunes that you used to love and listen to them.

Bored with these kinds of threads....

faust.dtc wrote:Id hate dubstep to just be a 'phase', as a music with stirs emotions in me I wouldnt want to move on from it...

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. With it's growing popularity i guess it's only normal to have to start digging deeper for the good stuff.