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garstep wrote:Okay so I've basically decided on getting the APC40 and an M-Audio Axiom 25. Will I need any other equipment like this as far as hardware goes? Is this too much?

just a good interface, monitors or cans

deadly habit wrote:

garstep wrote:Okay so I've basically decided on getting the APC40 and an M-Audio Axiom 25. Will I need any other equipment like this as far as hardware goes? Is this too much?

just a good interface, monitors or cans

IMO Monitors have way more bang for you buck compared to APC40.

kejk wrote:

deadly habit wrote:

garstep wrote:Okay so I've basically decided on getting the APC40 and an M-Audio Axiom 25. Will I need any other equipment like this as far as hardware goes? Is this too much?

just a good interface, monitors or cans

IMO Monitors have way more bang for you buck compared to APC40.

yea and the apc20 should be out soon

They've got very good points here. Buying higher quality monitors now, learning how to use ableton more thoroughly, and getting a gig-use controller later down the line when you're ready to play out would be a good way to go. It'll be bamboozling enough at first getting to grips with the daw without further complications of multi-controllers. And they'll have better models out by the time you're ready to use onee properly.

But I'd re-state, in my opinion unless you are doing serious recording into the laptop, you won't need an extra interface, the output from the internal soundcard really is excellent.

morphamish wrote:They've got very good points here. Buying higher quality monitors now, learning how to use ableton more thoroughly, and getting a gig-use controller later down the line when you're ready to play out would be a good way to go. It'll be bamboozling enough at first getting to grips with the daw without further complications of multi-controllers. And they'll have better models out by the time you're ready to use onee properly.

But I'd re-state, in my opinion unless you are doing serious recording into the laptop, you won't need an extra interface, the output from the internal soundcard really is excellent.

No.

Well I don't know what laptop you have, but I'm quite positive that you will get latency issues with your default -on board- soundcard.

kejk wrote:

morphamish wrote:They've got very good points here. Buying higher quality monitors now, learning how to use ableton more thoroughly, and getting a gig-use controller later down the line when you're ready to play out would be a good way to go. It'll be bamboozling enough at first getting to grips with the daw without further complications of multi-controllers. And they'll have better models out by the time you're ready to use onee properly.

But I'd re-state, in my opinion unless you are doing serious recording into the laptop, you won't need an extra interface, the output from the internal soundcard really is excellent.

No.

Well I don't know what laptop you have, but I'm quite positive that you will get latency issues with your default -on board- soundcard.

seconded

I know it sounds strange, but really not with a macbook pro. With a pc laptop yes. I've had a pc laptop, from red submarine, specced for music, and had loads of latency issues. With the macbook pro, no latency issues.

morphamish wrote:I know it sounds strange, but really not with a macbook pro. With a pc laptop yes. I've had a pc laptop, from red submarine, specced for music, and had loads of latency issues. With the macbook pro, no latency issues.

try asio4all drivers on pc

Thanks or all the help guys, seriously. I feel like I sort of have a decent idea of what's going on haha. With that being said, here's the basic idea. I already have a MacBook Pro, so I'm going to be adding some decent krk monitors, ableton live 8, an external soundcard (to be safe) and an M-Audio Axiom 25 for basic midi controls. Is this sounding about right? [;

garstep wrote:Thanks or all the help guys, seriously. I feel like I sort of have a decent idea of what's going on haha. With that being said, here's the basic idea. I already have a MacBook Pro, so I'm going to be adding some decent krk monitors, ableton live 8, an external soundcard (to be safe) and an M-Audio Axiom 25 for basic midi controls. Is this sounding about right? [;

seriously peep the edirol midi controllers and krk rokit range 6s are the best

garstep wrote:Thanks or all the help guys, seriously. I feel like I sort of have a decent idea of what's going on haha. With that being said, here's the basic idea. I already have a MacBook Pro, so I'm going to be adding some decent krk monitors, ableton live 8, an external soundcard (to be safe) and an M-Audio Axiom 25 for basic midi controls. Is this sounding about right? [;

Sounds quite alright!

Man, it took me years to gear up, I wish I could just pick everything I want like you :>

shit same my work gets most of my check back evrytime i'm paid
hell off to there on day off today

deadly habit wrote:shit same my work gets most of my check back evrytime i'm paid
hell off to there on day off today

Don't you get any discount? :>

I also spend at least 50% of my pay on gear/music...

kejk wrote:

deadly habit wrote:shit same my work gets most of my check back evrytime i'm paid
hell off to there on day off today

Don't you get any discount? :>

I also spend at least 50% of my pay on gear/music...

yes just i forget the stupid shit i need when buying new gear
ie power conitioner, cable ties and longer midi cables today alone

Sounds good chap, the NI Audio Kontrol has fantastic D/A converters and good pre-amps, or if you want something cheap and fast on a mac go for the Behringer FCA-202, it'll run your monitors but you'll need a little mixing desk to record stuff into it, which I prefer anyway.
I had problems setting up the Edirol keyboard's pads, so I'd recommend going for a really cheap and simple keyboard with full-size keys and then going for an MPD 16 or an LPD8.
Try Reaktor out, it has so many synths, samplers and effects, and NI are often selling it for £100 on one week only offers.

Well, I just got rid of a bunch of guitar equipment (Two guitars, three amplifiers, 6 pedals + pedal board and two cabs) so I have a little extra money. I've been playing guitar for 7 years and I feel like I've pretty much ran my course on that instrument making that type of music. I felt really confined playing guitar about what I could do musically which is why I'm looking forward to having as much freedom as electronic music allows. I kept an old Gibson and my Vox AC-30 though, just for old times sake. :]

garstep wrote:Well, I just got rid of a bunch of guitar equipment (Two guitars, three amplifiers, 6 pedals + pedal board and two cabs) so I have a little extra money. I've been playing guitar for 7 years and I feel like I've pretty much ran my course on that instrument making that type of music. I felt really confined playing guitar about what I could do musically which is why I'm looking forward to having as much freedom as electronic music allows. I kept an old Gibson and my Vox AC-30 though, just for old times sake. :]

if ya have any pedals left invest in a reamp and di box

deadly habit wrote:

garstep wrote:Thanks or all the help guys, seriously. I feel like I sort of have a decent idea of what's going on haha. With that being said, here's the basic idea. I already have a MacBook Pro, so I'm going to be adding some decent krk monitors, ableton live 8, an external soundcard (to be safe) and an M-Audio Axiom 25 for basic midi controls. Is this sounding about right? [;

seriously peep the edirol midi controllers and krk rokit range 6s are the best

+1 on the rokit 6s. love mine.

deadly habit wrote:

garstep wrote:Well, I just got rid of a bunch of guitar equipment (Two guitars, three amplifiers, 6 pedals + pedal board and two cabs) so I have a little extra money. I've been playing guitar for 7 years and I feel like I've pretty much ran my course on that instrument making that type of music. I felt really confined playing guitar about what I could do musically which is why I'm looking forward to having as much freedom as electronic music allows. I kept an old Gibson and my Vox AC-30 though, just for old times sake. :]

if ya have any pedals left invest in a reamp and di box

That's a great idea. :]

morphamish wrote:
But I'd re-state, in my opinion unless you are doing serious recording into the laptop, you won't need an extra interface, the output from the internal soundcard really is excellent.

Unless I'm missing something on the new macbook, how are you suggesting he connects krk monitors straight to a macbook pro?


If you HAVE to buy a shitload of stuff, get some monitors (but not bigger than 5 inch because your room probably isn't treated correctly to get an useable benefit from large speakers...and you dont need them) and a good quality midi keyboard.

And try ableton before you buy it. please? do ANY research? try some stuff out? just dont blow a load of cash on pointless shit you dont need?