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yea, so i was just wanting to like mix my own tracks together, just so they were all togehter. i dont wanna "cheat" or piss anyone off. xD

then dude, don't wait around here. grab some software and do it, f the haters!

drokkr wrote:Google "dj software" and grab some demos - not sure if they'll let you save tho'

this.

using demo's, you can record with a second program like audacity or something. i think its audacity, or reaper or something

narcissus wrote:i'm used to this BS now, Basic A gets his panties all in a bunch every time someone mentions mixing without vinyl.

just wondering, what his advice would be if you're a producer, and nobody knows who you are and none of your stuff is released on vinyl?? what are you supposed to do, mix other people's tracks? what a cop out. i'd rather mix my own stuff in live then mix ANYBODY's else ish on vinyl.

Did you miss where I use CDJs? how bout when I offered to help anytime new producers want DJ treatment, and where I have a running mix series which sole purpose is to slip in new producers Im cool with next to big names? I dont use vnyl dude, and you obviously didnt bother read where I had already gave advice to producers who dont dj. Dont question me when Ive already answered you.

I didnt mean to sound like I favor VDJ over mixxx either man who asked, Im a *nixer bro, Mixxx ftw... Only thing I said bad about either of them is that without TCV or a controller, its going to be damn near impossible to work with.

And my advice to producers who dont DJ is too learn really... its incredibly fun, the possibilites are infinite, and its just a ridiculously immersive experience creatively when you get down too it. N its not that terribly hard, people expect too much too fast in this game, we all know that, and you have to learn the basics before you learn to get sick. Aint a DJ on here didnt learn by either doing the same ambient drop set list over n over, and forcing themselves to mix gabba out of its simplicity. Gotta learn to crawl for ya can walk. Once you can beatmatch somewha coherently, start eq matching, the simple effecting, then experiment with placement, ect. Drop to drops until you know placement.

Mixtaping with FL n shit is fine for producer promos, but dont pass it as DJ sets!!! And its never going to teach you a damn thing about what actual mixing is. Its a crutch, n a way to skip straight to final without the learning, the equivelant of loop assembly and preset reckin in production to the DJ world. And Ive heard all of you producers get ticked about that.

EZ

love vdj will check mixx out tho sounds interesting

Basic A wrote:

narcissus wrote:i'm used to this BS now, Basic A gets his panties all in a bunch every time someone mentions mixing without vinyl.

just wondering, what his advice would be if you're a producer, and nobody knows who you are and none of your stuff is released on vinyl?? what are you supposed to do, mix other people's tracks? what a cop out. i'd rather mix my own stuff in live then mix ANYBODY's else ish on vinyl.

Did you miss where I use CDJs? how bout when I offered to help anytime new producers want DJ treatment, and where I have a running mix series which sole purpose is to slip in new producers Im cool with next to big names? I dont use vnyl dude, and you obviously didnt bother read where I had already gave advice to producers who dont dj. Dont question me when Ive already answered you.

I didnt mean to sound like I favor VDJ over mixxx either man who asked, Im a *nixer bro, Mixxx ftw... Only thing I said bad about either of them is that without TCV or a controller, its going to be damn near impossible to work with.

And my advice to producers who dont DJ is too learn really... its incredibly fun, the possibilites are infinite, and its just a ridiculously immersive experience creatively when you get down too it. N its not that terribly hard, people expect too much too fast in this game, we all know that, and you have to learn the basics before you learn to get sick. Aint a DJ on here didnt learn by either doing the same ambient drop set list over n over, and forcing themselves to mix gabba out of its simplicity. Gotta learn to crawl for ya can walk. Once you can beatmatch somewha coherently, start eq matching, the simple effecting, then experiment with placement, ect. Drop to drops until you know placement.

Mixtaping with FL n shit is fine for producer promos, but dont pass it as DJ sets!!! And its never going to teach you a damn thing about what actual mixing is. Its a crutch, n a way to skip straight to final without the learning, the equivelant of loop assembly and preset reckin in production to the DJ world. And Ive heard all of you producers get ticked about that.

EZ

whatever. when you start ranting all i hear is disrespect for ANYbody who DJ's w/ a DAW. when i dj my shit w/ live, i'm mixing LIVE.. aka selecting tracks, fading them into each other, adding delay/effects, LIVE... as in no nets, no automation... and enjoying the hell out of it, dancing, feeling the tracks fitting together.. and i don't see how that's any different from what you do with decks or CDJs. i don't see why you got all this hate for DAWs.

tripaddict wrote:love vdj will check mixx out tho sounds interesting

i do love mixx, but that's because i have a soft heart for freeware stuff. mixx will crash on you, perform spectacular slowdowns, all that stuff... but it's free and i love it.

narcissus wrote: whatever. when you start ranting all i hear is disrespect for ANYbody who DJ's w/ a DAW. when i dj my shit w/ live, i'm mixing LIVE.. aka selecting tracks, fading them into each other, adding delay/effects, LIVE... as in no nets, no automation... and enjoying the hell out of it, dancing, feeling the tracks fitting together.. and i don't see how that's any different from what you do with decks or CDJs. i don't see why you got all this hate for DAWs.

All i hear when you start saying this stuff is someon who clearly hasnt read my posts once again. No hate on anything live. No hate period. Seems like your deal to me dude.

but you're posts are 90% negative energy and 50% too long.

sorry i'll go back and read everything you ever posted. i'll clearly have a much better undertstanding of life

Basic A wrote:DAW mixing is uber lame...

So is mixxx, you cant use that shit for anything real, dont try n lie to yourself...

and you try to come off like you weren't saying DAW mixing sucks??

this is what i'm talking about.

Basic A wrote:Only thing I said bad about either of them is that without TCV or a controller, its going to be damn near impossible to work with.

that's not even true. you said they're UBER LAME. that doesn't sound like hate to you?

just because YOU can't mix w/ a mouse doesn't mean nobody can.

please stop beefin.

DubSac wrote:please stop beefin.

Ah, sick icon broski.

N Im sorry if I wasnt lear enough in my posts for you narc. I dotn see why you bring bullshit over my opinions though. Its like I said, I use synth presets, but I dotn tweak when people tell me not too. I just do it anyway.

Perhaps I should have said :

Prepared, non live DAW mixing performed under the guise of traditional DJing to skip straight through the work associated with learning to beatmatch is uber lame. Sorry the other one just flowed off the toungue better, elaborated when I was asked though...

cheers basic A. that nice starboy guy did it up for me. maybe we should just end this with saying both ways of mixing are good, but personal preferences tend to differ alot? haha.

I'm gonna both agree & disagree with most of what has been said...


If you just want to make a mix, you can do it with *any* DAW (sorry haters). True, you have to be twice as creative to have it sound any good at all, but it IS possible and it is how I first started with MY (digital) mixes..... [granted, it should be stated that I first started making mixes with a dual-cassette deck... so *any* DAW would be a godsend in my world]. So what if you have some ambient interludes or some random beatchopping to make transitions. If done well, no one will care.

THAT SAID... if you want a properly beatmatched mix, you should definitely look at the proper DJ software. These days, that means (again in the digital realm), Serato / Traktor / Ableton. You can't get the proper feel of cutting back and forth between tracks without proper beatmatchable software (not that all those who use said software really know how to cut).... and you can't get the proper beatmatched blends without the tracks being locked.

HOWEVER...

I will defend to the death, learning how to mix in a non-beatmatchable DAW... because that is how I learned how to mix non-beatmatchable tracks. If you are working with vinyl - then fine, that is its own beast.. but if you are in the digital realm, and only learning to beatmatch locked tracks... you still are only learning half the game. Learn how to blend non-beatmatched tracks to take your shit (and your listeners) to a new level. Sometimes it takes knowing how to manually ride a delay time to blend the reflections perfectly. Other times it takes knowing the non-beatmatched track inside and out to know that it will sync with a particular track for 4 bars, but then go out... cos you have tried it 3762 times....


To make a short story long... try and learn from all methods.


Amen.

Buy Ableton intro for $99 and you're laughing all the way to the best mix of your life.

ableton

DubSac wrote:cheers basic A. that nice starboy guy did it up for me. maybe we should just end this with saying both ways of mixing are good, but personal preferences tend to differ alot? haha.

yeah, that's kinda what i was tryin to say. whatever floats your boat, do it, and f the haters.

for the amount of time I spend on Ableton you would think I'd have the live performance thing down by now...but alas, this is not the case.

probably won't take much time to learn though.

fuck it, just get this

I've been a DJ for about 12 years now, and in every medium.
I use Ableton now for both my sequenced mixes and my live (with the apc40) sets and it's amazing for both.

This is a recent sequenced mix I did in ableton.

Soundcloud

EDIT: In my sequenced sets I do a LOT of custom edits of things and really try to make most of the mixes something special. If all you're doing is you're average everyday track to track mix in a Daw of some sort, sadface.