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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:22 am
by ghettobot
and furthermore...talking bout earthfriendliness and kfc in the same breaths is kinda disturbing and things!

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:56 am
by cogent
Back to the vinyl debate...
I've never really classed myself as a dj but have always brought the odd bit of vinyl.. and since discovering dubstep, more so than ever.
I try my best (££ permitting) to keep up with the release's .. 1) cos like some are saying, otherwise you just can't get some of the tunes.. 2) cos i know some of the headz putting them out and without sounding cheesy i wanna support there cause and help the scene grow. 3) cos i like the sound and its a good feeling when you get your mitts on that fresh piece of vinyl...
I can understand for the international crew, the cost involved in buying vinyl and thats why i think its a good idea that MP3's are available, which would also help the scene grow.
Since getting all these new tunes, I've been practicing my mixing more and more, and have recently borrowed my mate 1210's (such a difference to the belt drives, even tho the crazy fools adjusted his pitch controls to + & - 16 !!!). I'm really enjoying learning to mix dubstep and (sorry to rub it in) having access to all the wicked tunes...
So my vote is Maybe in the future I'll buy digital music, but at the mo buying vinyl might be a bit pricey but it does feel good when you manage to get hold of a tune before it sells out and it does piss me off when you miss out, so thats when i'd consider buying the MP3.. IMO, wav would still be a better choice tho and i think would offer people another option and maybe shift more units...
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:50 pm
by ghettobot
it's like tofu... made of liver.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:22 pm
by omen
dubmugga wrote:^^^us polynesians love our KFC...
if digital music is like KFC, available globally and consistently by the piece or as many pieces as you like, original recipe or hot and spicy...
... then vinyl is like a fine restaurant in the english countryside that does takeouts but you have to wait months to get a booking just to get served and by the time your meal arrives halfway across the world it's cold, there's not enough of it and it cost shitloads
more for you, then sweet...
... personally i like home cooking
wot wud you u call quality music ??? deffo not mp3 or any other compressed file an vinyl dying takes away the skill from djin cd mixin is simple pc mixin is automatic its done for you there is no skill
the best thing about dubstep is every dj cuts dubs an buys vinyl thats what being a dj is about its a manually handlin the blend its not about pushin pitch buttons an lettin your pc mix for u
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:28 pm
by seen
i like my tracks on wax. period.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:29 pm
by omen
seen wrote:i like my tracks on wax. period.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:06 pm
by dubmugga
omen wrote:
wot wud you u call quality music ???
...quality music for me is mostly about composition and evoking emotions
I'm not too worried about the quality of the audio for listening at home cos i don't DJ but if the quality is too shit i won't listen to it...
DJ skill doesn't do much for me unless it's beat juggling and scratching. Punters couldn't give a shit how the DJ matches the beats as long as the train doesn't get wrecked too often and the spotters generally can't buy the dubs if they are costly hi demand limited pressings or exclusive VIP cuts
...seems weird though to get exclusive CDR business, cut em to dub and play em out when the CDR quality is fine. It just seems like an extra added expense for no real reason other than a preference for vinyl and a continuation of a tradition
It also seems strange to buy the vinyl, mix it into other tunes and put it on the net as a mix you can download for free then load up in your mp3 player or burn to play out in your CD...
...but I suppose it doesnt matter if you're only making music for DJ's and while that may be the foundations of the scene at some stage to get more of a return producers wil have to make concessions to the general public
another weird thing is i always imagine blood whenever americans try to emphasize a point by saying ,period after a sentence

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:50 am
by bruno belluomini
Any more opinions?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:34 pm
by dleted
It seems a lot of you are overly concerned with people doing computer mixing. If the downloaded tunes are .wav or some kind of lossless file format then you can get your tune cut to plate or you can burn a cd for use in a CDJ-1000 etc. I would suspect very few of us would do Ableton Live mixes or what ever unless it was your own tunes and you wanted to do a quick promo mix...like Moldy did.
I like having my vinyl but it is expensive to make for the labelsand hard to get outside of the UK. Infact the artist (who work very hard on there art) don't make much money off their work because of the cost of vinyl. Download music will get more money to the artist and the label. Its not like you have to do it .99 cents like itunes. This way it can be an option. you could buy the vinyl or the digital version. best of both worlds. I suspect that the CDJ world will bet much much better in the future and the feeling of mixing vinyl will be spot on.
Plus.. you only buy the tunes you want. witch is great. I usually don't want every track on an album.