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Re: future of music software?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:21 pm
by 3za
yellowhighlighter wrote:those robots that can write classical music will be integrated into musical software just like arpeggiators.
you ever used FL Studio 9?

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:26 pm
by nowaysj
@pat

Faw circle - color coding of modulators good, tiny unreadable graphics of the range of modulation going on, bad... step back from massive, imo.

Fabfilter's gui's are heralded as revolutionary, or outstanding, whatever, I think they are the worst. I cannot stand not being able to see the big picture, I don't want to click into sections of the device to access it's functionality or read it's information. I want it all laid out, where I can see/access it, without being complex or cluttered, ie, well designed **coughmassivecough**

Software as service is definitely the push right now, but notice it's not being driven by user demand, it is, in fact, being pushed by dev's attempting to guarantee their revenue streams. I hope sas fails horribly. I want my software right here where I can control it.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:42 pm
by futures_untold
nowaysj wrote:@pat

Faw circle - color coding of modulators good, tiny unreadable graphics of the range of modulation going on, bad... step back from massive, imo.
I agree. Small unreadable text or controls on any software is inexcusable these days.

nowaysj wrote:Fabfilter's gui's are heralded as revolutionary, or outstanding, whatever, I think they are the worst. I cannot stand not being able to see the big picture, I don't want to click into sections of the device to access it's functionality or read it's information. I want it all laid out, where I can see/access it, without being complex or cluttered, ie, well designed **coughmassivecough**
Yes, you're right again. Keeping a gui entirely on one page if possible is much better than multipage systyems. Spectrsonics products are very guilty of multipage shitness imo. Vember Audio Surge is a winner for one page design! ;)
nowaysj wrote:Software as service is definitely the push right now, but notice it's not being driven by user demand, it is, in fact, being pushed by dev's attempting to guarantee their revenue streams.
That's fine imo, cuz people will cotton on if the service is good enough and it will then become 'standard'. Remember before mobile phones? No one really saw the possibilities back then, but now even my mum can't get through the day without text/ringing people on the move.
nowaysj wrote: I hope sas fails horribly. I want my software right here where I can control it.
What's sas? I dn't understand what your saying (I'm having a blonde moment :oops:)

Pat :)

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:44 pm
by studio dread
Touch screen computers are already around. I guess its a good novelty but when your used to a mouse it actually seems more fidley.

As i've upgraded software it really is all about better GUIs and improved workflow that has improved things, not the added features.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:00 am
by nowaysj
futures_untold wrote:What's sas?
Sorry. Software as service. I was being lazy, its really saas, but that is just stoopid, like pronouncing "doubleu doubleu doubleu dot whatever" rather than, "world wide web." World wide web has only 3 syllables, whereas www has 9 syllables, three times as many syllables. Anyway, wtf am I talking about?

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:12 am
by futures_untold
The benefit of always online software is that you can travel light and still access your apps/files from other locations. Imagine going to your friends gaff and not needing to worry about which software they're using :) (Although I carry Reaper on a USB stick so I can run it from anywhere with a usb port. It retains all my settings and plugins/samples etc haha)

Regarding saas, user privacy is what bugs me more tbh.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:20 am
by JFK
nowaysj wrote:
futures_untold wrote:What's sas?
Sorry. Software as service. I was being lazy, its really saas, but that is just stoopid, like pronouncing "doubleu doubleu doubleu dot whatever" rather than, "world wide web." World wide web has only 3 syllables, whereas www has 9 syllables, three times as many syllables. Anyway, wtf am I talking about?
:lol:

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:31 am
by DjTrainWreck
nowaysj wrote:Oh one thing I always wanted was to beat box tracks out, and have some ai match legit samples to my beat, or synth up blines. Think if you could sing out everything you wanted, and have it all synthed up for you. That would be intuitive. For me at least.
Look up Dub FX

maybe its one word

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:41 am
by nowaysj
futures_untold wrote:Regarding saas, user privacy is what bugs me more tbh.
Yeah no doubt.

I don't know what your regulatory schemes are like over there, but here in the states, services like cell phone, isp, cable/satellite, etc etc etc use all kinds of gotcha tactics to greatly balloon the costs of the services. I'd rather pay once, up front, and always be able to use the product (or at least until os upgrades make it obsolete).

It's just a major shift in power and control. I'd rather own than rent, tbh.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:27 am
by abZ
nowaysj wrote:
futures_untold wrote:What's sas?
Sorry. Software as service. I was being lazy, its really saas, but that is just stoopid, like pronouncing "doubleu doubleu doubleu dot whatever" rather than, "world wide web." World wide web has only 3 syllables, whereas www has 9 syllables, three times as many syllables. Anyway, wtf am I talking about?
lolz I never even thought about that but does anyone really say www out loud? Like if I tell someone my web address I just say savory audio dot com. The www is kind of optional these days innit?

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:31 am
by DjTrainWreck
abZ wrote:
nowaysj wrote:
futures_untold wrote:What's sas?
Sorry. Software as service. I was being lazy, its really saas, but that is just stoopid, like pronouncing "doubleu doubleu doubleu dot whatever" rather than, "world wide web." World wide web has only 3 syllables, whereas www has 9 syllables, three times as many syllables. Anyway, wtf am I talking about?
lolz I never even thought about that but does anyone really say www out loud? Like if I tell someone my web address I just say savory audio dot com. The www is kind of optional these days innit?
I think so to hell with www

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:34 am
by abZ
studio dread wrote:Touch screen computers are already around. I guess its a good novelty but when your used to a mouse it actually seems more fidley.

As i've upgraded software it really is all about better GUIs and improved workflow that has improved things, not the added features.
Are they really didn't know that :roll:

It is still new technology, it really hasn't been integrated into anything yet except cell phones. I don't think touch screens necessarily needs to replace the mouse it's just another way to interact with the software. Like a controller that can change depending on what you are working on. Like working on drums and a pov drum kit pops up that is velocity sensitive or a keyboards when working on a synth line, etc. I am a mouse guy but I could defo do with a lot less of it, my wrist starts to hurt and my arm goes numb during long sessions. IDK I for one welcome it.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:36 am
by nowaysj
abZ wrote:The www is kind of optional these days innit?
People still say that shit to me. I burn a hole in their forehead for the wasted 2 seconds it takes to say that shit. :evil: :lol:

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:38 am
by abZ
nowaysj wrote:
abZ wrote:The www is kind of optional these days innit?
People still say that shit to me. I burn a hole in their forehead for the wasted 2 seconds it takes to say that shit. :evil: :lol:

Maybe they just enjoy saying it. Makes em feel like a rapper and shit.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:59 am
by Basic A
babylonjunkies wrote:emulation and the smallest buttons ever!
DOnt forget virtual hanging wires, virtual screws, virtual tubes... hell... itchy even comes with virtual ketamine on the meter! you got your whole virtual world, they need to make virtual asshole friend who come along and shit beers on top of valuable exuipment and cover vital screens while your producing. Thatd be the shit.

This is why I stay out of reason honestly... If it did what it did and looked as simple as JACK id be all over that shit. nah. no fany screws and tubes n shit. Im good.

On that note, I see the actual drivers advancing severely, and becoming a much larger part of the production process. JACK lets me link multiple software together, anything that makes sound on my pc really, can be plugged into anything that can process it. I see the intuitiveness of individual app linking, as bring a way forward and keeping people in touch with the studio's full of individual effects boxes, drum mahcines, synths and recorders, but rather, wiring it all on your pc.

And it wont be singularly limited like Reason. it will be capable on soundcard processes. JACK.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:38 am
by nowaysj
My emu 1616m is a multiclient driver meaning I can run as many apps as I want, and can send audio to and from w/o latency. Put simply... itz da bomb.

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:41 am
by Basic A
nowaysj wrote:My emu 1616m is a multiclient driver meaning I can run as many apps as I want, and can send audio to and from w/o latency. Put simply... itz da bomb.
Haha, sounds like JUST what Im at.

It is teh shit, huh?

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:00 am
by nowaysj
totally teh

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:16 am
by kwami
Image

versatile hardware/software like the lemur, MAX/MSP

Re: future of music software?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:20 am
by nowaysj
Sorry to be over posting, but I wish that thing was 4x6 feet in size.