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Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical backgrounds ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:15 am
by boot
^^haha amen to that man. I let all that classical training go out the window for a while and concentrated on just making cool sounds, but lately I've been harking back to the ol' theory
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical backgrounds ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:42 am
by Hellomadame
YEP ! What a think catches attention aside from cool sounds (but really in dubstep a catchy dirty bass sound is a cool sound no ?) is really the melodic pattern or the harmonic build around the tune. But lets say it's kind of 50/50. Cool sounds ... 50% check, nice melody and strong harmonic build .. 50% check.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical backgrounds ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:43 pm
by alphacat
Hellomadame wrote:Well for my part, I'm coming from an intensively classical background. I've been studying both the harpsichord and organ (maybe all the filthiness comes from there hahaha) and music theory and ear training at college and still doing it. Anyone think it's essential ?
Essential? Nah.
Possibly helpful - maybe even an extraordinary advantage if used well?
Definitely.
Especially since it's keyed instruments you've been learning, too.
This is just my opinion, but if you started really digging into the history of dub proper (not -step) and the musical & production aspects particularly, you would be a fuckin' force to be reckoned with in the dubstep world. I've recommended this book before but I can't give it enough props - it's like taking a college-level course in Dub 101.
http://www.amazon.com/Dub-Soundscapes-S ... 0819565725
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:27 pm
by hpuk
Being classicaly trained allows you to focus on your sound engineering...
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:40 pm
by djchaosphere
i think im probably leanin towards the side sayin musical tranin defo helps
myself, datsik, And excision all have degrees in audio engineering
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical backgrounds ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:34 pm
by dr h
rayman612 wrote:Apparently Rusko was "born into a musical family" but I really can't tell after listening to Woo Boost
"Wobble in A Minor" is his magnum opus
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:58 pm
by slothrop
Sharmaji, obvs.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:00 am
by desto
10 years classical piano - guilty. 10+ years of not actually having a proper piano at hand - guilty.
Training doesn't matter, creativity does.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:26 am
by mistayif
@ desto, your tunes are absolutely sick, love cold vip and disappearing reappearing ink. got any more releases in the pipeline?
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:35 pm
by fractal
agree with desto
but if im not mistaken, Guido and D1 are classically trained
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:21 pm
by wascal
desto wrote:10 years classical piano - guilty. 10+ years of not actually having a proper piano at hand - guilty.
I know that one - grade 8 guitar at age 16 then didn't bother even owning one for most of my 20s, only just got one again recently. I found doing the grades sucked all the fun out of it for me.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:58 pm
by clausbechjorgenson
Bit of a random one that's not really that relevant, but did anybody see the BBC program where Goldie wrote that classical piece? His mentor was playing all of this interesting, and i think modern, classical music, and I remember thinking I should give it a listen but never did. So have any of you classically trained lot got any suggestions?
By the way, I've been a long time lurker but never wanted to join because I don't want to get drawn into silly arguments about wobbles and ketamine.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:35 pm
by Numan
desto wrote:
Training doesn't matter, creativity does.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:47 am
by desto
mistayif wrote:@ desto, your tunes are absolutely sick, love cold vip and disappearing reappearing ink. got any more releases in the pipeline?
There's more tunes on the way fairly soon as well as my Shuanise remix that will be out on UpMyAlley (digital only unfortunately) and my Michael Black Electro remix on a spesh vinyl on Team Acre soon. I'll post more info when release dates are confirmed.
But yeah, i've gotten back into playing keyboards a lot more again. I think classical training can hold you back a bit until you can disregard the rules and genuinely expand your musical thinking further. This said, i definitely don't regret having the background as it is a part of how my tunes end up sounding.
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical backgrounds ?
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:00 am
by killer b
dr h wrote:
"Wobble in A Minor" is his magnum opus
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:01 am
by clifford_-
clausbechjorgenson wrote:
By the way, I've been a long time lurker but never wanted to join because I don't want to get drawn into silly arguments about wobbles and ketamine.
I just ignore all those bits. The beauty of forums, if you dont like a thread, skip to one you do!
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:07 pm
by joe muggs
Anyone interested in this topic needs to read Rogue's Foam blog - try this piece on Burial as an example
http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/2009/12/ ... er-vs.html
He talks about how great electronic music can be analysed in classical terms - but how it doesn't matter whether the producer intended the harmonic complexity in formal terms or whether they came to it instinctively.
BTW keep an ear out for some amazing dubstep w/ classical instruments from the outrageously talented Message To Bears
http://www.myspace.com/messagetobears
Re: Dubstep producers coming from a classical background ?
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:46 pm
by fractal
yeah, rouge's foam is an excellent blog! love the transcribed kaliko