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Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:09 pm
by mercutio
tunnidge wrote:
brasco wrote:
tunnidge wrote:This is not a dubstep problem its a generational one.
this is true, but the antisocial nature of this extreme side of jump up doesnt help either.

problem is, with the powers old bill have now, if dubstep continues to get a bad name thanks to these little pratts, more and more events will get locked off due to 'safety fears'.
I think we have a long way to go before we see the kind of reaction from police that we saw with the London Garage scene in the early 2000s. Guaranteed these youts would have turned up if the event had been Garage, Grime or Drum and Bass, the key element in my opinion is the over 16+ door policy. I would be interested to know the ages of the people involved in the instances of violence, i'd hazard a guess that they would be too young to get into DMZ.
its really not very hard to get into dmz underage, all you need is a pretty shit fake id

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:27 pm
by The Phantom Banger
mercutio wrote:
tunnidge wrote:
brasco wrote:
tunnidge wrote:This is not a dubstep problem its a generational one.
this is true, but the antisocial nature of this extreme side of jump up doesnt help either.

problem is, with the powers old bill have now, if dubstep continues to get a bad name thanks to these little pratts, more and more events will get locked off due to 'safety fears'.
I think we have a long way to go before we see the kind of reaction from police that we saw with the London Garage scene in the early 2000s. Guaranteed these youts would have turned up if the event had been Garage, Grime or Drum and Bass, the key element in my opinion is the over 16+ door policy. I would be interested to know the ages of the people involved in the instances of violence, i'd hazard a guess that they would be too young to get into DMZ.
its really not very hard to get into dmz underage, all you need is a pretty shit fake id
serious? Whens the next one?

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:37 pm
by tunnidge
mercutio wrote:
tunnidge wrote:
brasco wrote:
tunnidge wrote:This is not a dubstep problem its a generational one.
this is true, but the antisocial nature of this extreme side of jump up doesnt help either.

problem is, with the powers old bill have now, if dubstep continues to get a bad name thanks to these little pratts, more and more events will get locked off due to 'safety fears'.
I think we have a long way to go before we see the kind of reaction from police that we saw with the London Garage scene in the early 2000s. Guaranteed these youts would have turned up if the event had been Garage, Grime or Drum and Bass, the key element in my opinion is the over 16+ door policy. I would be interested to know the ages of the people involved in the instances of violence, i'd hazard a guess that they would be too young to get into DMZ.
its really not very hard to get into dmz underage, all you need is a pretty shit fake id
Which reiterates my point that this is not a dubstep problem.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:11 pm
by Kensington
The Phantom Banger wrote:
mercutio wrote:
tunnidge wrote:
brasco wrote:
tunnidge wrote:This is not a dubstep problem its a generational one.
this is true, but the antisocial nature of this extreme side of jump up doesnt help either.

problem is, with the powers old bill have now, if dubstep continues to get a bad name thanks to these little pratts, more and more events will get locked off due to 'safety fears'.
I think we have a long way to go before we see the kind of reaction from police that we saw with the London Garage scene in the early 2000s. Guaranteed these youts would have turned up if the event had been Garage, Grime or Drum and Bass, the key element in my opinion is the over 16+ door policy. I would be interested to know the ages of the people involved in the instances of violence, i'd hazard a guess that they would be too young to get into DMZ.
its really not very hard to get into dmz underage, all you need is a pretty shit fake id
serious? Whens the next one?
Leeds, 24th April.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:14 pm
by brasco
kli1 wrote: Leeds, 24th April.
lol and remember if you dont live in the local area kids can travel with a paying adult for a pound on the train

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:23 pm
by The Phantom Banger
im djing on the 24th :(

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:27 pm
by promo
tunnidge wrote:I think we have a long way to go before we see the kind of reaction from police that we saw with the London Garage scene in the early 2000s. Guaranteed these youts would have turned up if the event had been Garage, Grime or Drum and Bass, the key element in my opinion is the over 16+ door policy. I would be interested to know the ages of the people involved in the instances of violence, i'd hazard a guess that they would be too young to get into DMZ.
Agreed.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:27 pm
by trench
what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:36 pm
by The Phantom Banger
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Plant fertilizer, addictive, cheap all that stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone think its abbout to become class b or already is.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:26 pm
by pkay
Knives are going to ruin dubstep

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:30 pm
by For The Win Records
mephadrone is ruining dubstep. :z:

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:59 pm
by Wolverine
The Phantom Banger wrote:
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Plant fertilizer, addictive, cheap all that stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone think its abbout to become class b or already is.

this friday - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8616758.stm

still won't stop people using it, although there will be alot less users.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:08 pm
by The Phantom Banger
Wolverine wrote:
The Phantom Banger wrote:
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Plant fertilizer, addictive, cheap all that stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone think its abbout to become class b or already is.

this friday - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8616758.stm

still won't stop people using it, although there will be alot less users.
Glad they dealt with it quite quickyl

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:15 pm
by dubmilo
As per my sig:
LA_Boxers wrote:Maybe we should just start a thread called " *insert drug of choice here* is going to ruin *insert any word here* "

For Example.

Calpol is going to ruin Tapas Bars.

Please select you own ideas.............then keep them to yourselves!

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:17 pm
by clairvoyeur
birds, balls, grams, bumps, snoots, bricks, bags... these i can deal with, but what's a wrap of cocaine?

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:35 pm
by bolsty
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Never ever come across it over here in Aus either. From memory, BZP (think it's BZP can't remember) a sort of MDMA immitater persay is legal in the UK, henceforth ecstacy has pretty much died in the ass. Therefore i'm assuming people have turned to other drugs and mephedrone emerged as a result?

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:56 pm
by Over7hink
bolsty wrote:
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Never ever come across it over here in Aus either. From memory, BZP (think it's BZP can't remember) a sort of MDMA immitater persay is legal in the UK, henceforth ecstacy has pretty much died in the ass. Therefore i'm assuming people have turned to other drugs and mephedrone emerged as a result?
never heard of that beyond reading about it online. Definitely not popular where I'm at.

What is popular around here is khat. Anyone heard of it? apparently it's not a controlled substance in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat

anyway that's fucked up about this event. Shame.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:12 pm
by pkay
We don't see meph in the US because most of the big drugs are cheap as shit in the US.

Plus we have a much more dominate RX black market.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:43 pm
by kion
bolsty wrote:
trench wrote:what the hells this Mephedrone shit? Never heard of it in the states.
Never ever come across it over here in Aus either. From memory, BZP (think it's BZP can't remember) a sort of MDMA immitater persay is legal in the UK, henceforth ecstacy has pretty much died in the ass. Therefore i'm assuming people have turned to other drugs and mephedrone emerged as a result?
MDMA came back at the beginning of the year, but too late to stop Mephadrone becoming the drug of choice for teenagers, mainly down to it being easily available by ordering online. BZP was outlawed a couple of months back.

Re: Dubfreaks cancelled...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:54 pm
by sebsebseb
The same ingredient as what's in Khat is in Mephedrone, which I only found out the other day, and which is also utterly disgusting as people in parts of Africa living in total poverty grow the Khat plants to get by. Rough tings a gwan.