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how about 'b' on the first dmz? or others of that era.

haunted was making it's rounds '04, if i'm not mistaken,,,

tuff call between, Oris, Search and Destroy, Dub Child, Slaughter Mob and Toasty but im inclined to say all of them

Maybe not "tearout" but always been hard, more agressive dancefloor tunes in the scene. Its part of it.

rogue star wrote:tuff call between, Oris, Search and Destroy, Dub Child, Slaughter Mob and Toasty but im inclined to say all of them

^ this was my intro into the scene. Trying to go back to my own interpretation of breakstep lately myself. I didn't mention any of these guys though as I didn't think it was what the OP was on about. When you talk Cookie Monster I am thinking over the top wobble, the above are far from that. When I think about it Sponge Bob had to be responsible for a lot of that. I remember hearing it the first time like WTF? And rewound it a couple times but the 1,000's of tunes that followed it were pretty meh imo.

abZ wrote:

rogue star wrote:tuff call between, Oris, Search and Destroy, Dub Child, Slaughter Mob and Toasty but im inclined to say all of them

^ this was my intro into the scene. Trying to go back to my own interpretation of breakstep lately myself. I didn't mention any of these guys though as I didn't think it was what the OP was on about. When you talk Cookie Monster I am thinking over the top wobble, the above are far from that. When I think about it Sponge Bob had to be responsible for a lot of that. I remember hearing it the first time like WTF? And rewound it a couple times but the 1,000's of tunes that followed it were pretty meh imo.

to me spongebob is a hyped up version of haunted,,, SUPER HYPED

abZ wrote:

rogue star wrote:tuff call between, Oris, Search and Destroy, Dub Child, Slaughter Mob and Toasty but im inclined to say all of them

^ this was my intro into the scene. Trying to go back to my own interpretation of breakstep lately myself. I didn't mention any of these guys though as I didn't think it was what the OP was on about. When you talk Cookie Monster I am thinking over the top wobble, the above are far from that. When I think about it Sponge Bob had to be responsible for a lot of that. I remember hearing it the first time like WTF? And rewound it a couple times but the 1,000's of tunes that followed it were pretty meh imo.

I hear ya, I guess im talking tearout in the literal sense, i think people are mixing jump-up, tear-out and clown-step, but far be it for me to explain the concept . I guess i thought i would mention these guys cos i know alot of the people who will end up posting in this thread may not fully know the producers despite their impact on this scene so i thought i would try my hand at "suggested education"

earliest I can think of is

doctor Wub - the wobbulator
released 1894

mc wayne wrote:earliest I can think of is

doctor Wub - the wobbulator
released 1894

tune

Thanks for the responses. This is all very informative.

The music keeps changing and evolving and it is very exciting to think what we will talking about in 1, 5, and 10 years down the road.

when did DPRDUB001 come out? 2003? get yo, can't kill my sound... some heavy shit.

the real tear-shit-up tunes from 2005 that i can think of-- skream "who R those guys," vex'd "Lion VIP" etc...

can we not include 2003-era grime in this category?

Xavy wrote:I love Coki too much to call his music 'tearout' or 'dudestep.' Despite it's brilliance it's certainly a precursor to a lot of the shit that's happened though.

Sorry to bring my opinion into this.

same with vex'd or distance, etc. the production values are too high and they are too long lived to be considered b**step, which is what this thread is hinting at.

south3rn wrote:same with vex'd or distance, etc. the production values are too high ... to be considered b**step

Aww come on, I'm no brostep fanboy, but this just ain't fair.

slothrop wrote:Cockney Thug oviously wasn't the first heavy tearout tune, but it was the first one that I can remember really dividing people...

This is a really interesting answer... I'm personally more curious to know what tunes really started the pushback against 'brostep' or any of the nastier stuff; what tunes had people going "ok this is just ridiculous" ?

Incidentally, we just passed the 1-year anniversary of the "brostep" term's appearance on this forum:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/trill002-ko ... 81-60.html

mimzy wrote:...I'm personally more curious to know what tunes really started the pushback against 'brostep' or any of the nastier stuff; what tunes had people going "ok this is just ridiculous" ?...

The first tune I felt this about was Rusko - Biggest chopper. (ridiculous in a good way, that is!)

rogue star wrote: ...i think people are mixing jump-up, tear-out and clown-step, but far be it for me to explain the concept ....

the differences are so minute, all three of those terms are waste... it's all dubstep aint it

i would love for someone to explain the differences in mid frequency bass music, tbh, i call it all clownstep just cause it's an easy umbrella term

mc wayne wrote:earliest I can think of is

doctor Wub - the wobbulator
released 1894

SKANKOUT

vex'd, but they did it proper.
tbh every other 'tearout' tune is shallow, weak and boring compared to their stuff, obviously with a few exceptions.
i wouldn't even put them in the same boat tbh .

fractal wrote:

rogue star wrote: ...i think people are mixing jump-up, tear-out and clown-step, but far be it for me to explain the concept ....

the differences are so minute, all three of those terms are waste... it's all dubstep aint it

i would love for someone to explain the differences in mid frequency bass music, tbh, i call it all clownstep just cause it's an easy umbrella term

i beg to differ, i think the terms should speak for themselves and from what i gather, your saying that basically tunes should judged on their frequency values rather than the style or mood they create, it may be easy to do but you shouldn't tar everything with the same brush.

fractal wrote:it's all dubstep aint it

this is true

rogue star wrote:

fractal wrote:

rogue star wrote: ...i think people are mixing jump-up, tear-out and clown-step, but far be it for me to explain the concept ....

the differences are so minute, all three of those terms are waste... it's all dubstep aint it

i would love for someone to explain the differences in mid frequency bass music, tbh, i call it all clownstep just cause it's an easy umbrella term

i beg to differ, i think the terms should speak for themselves and from what i gather, your saying that basically tunes should judged on their frequency values rather than the style or mood they create, it may be easy to do but you shouldn't tar everything with the same brush.

Not what Im saying at all... I'm saying I don't understand the diff between tearout and clownstep, since neither of those terms are words I would use to describe music. I love vex'd, but IMHO, I wouldn't classify them as tearout; but as I stated, it could be because I don't fully grasp the meaning of or the nessessity of the word tearout...