Page 2 of 4
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:37 pm
by JWMMakerofMusic

Resampling is such a simple concept but one I didn't bother reading up on initially. Back2onett, when you mentioned it, I figured "is it in the Dubstep Production Bible? Yes it is." Then I started messing around, following the steps, and eventually got a sound that was 87% similar to that stereotypical Excision/Datsik sound. I bet with practise I could get 100% the Datsik and Excision sound, but why go that route?

Now that I know the "secret ingredient" for shaping Excision/Datsik basslines (resampling), it's simply time to deviate from that and see what original stuff I can come up with.
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:59 pm
by back2onett
JWMMakerofMusic wrote:
Resampling is such a simple concept but one I didn't bother reading up on initially. Back2onett, when you mentioned it, I figured "is it in the Dubstep Production Bible? Yes it is." Then I started messing around, following the steps, and eventually got a sound that was 87% similar to that stereotypical Excision/Datsik sound. I bet with practise I could get 100% the Datsik and Excision sound, but why go that route?

Now that I know the "secret ingredient" for shaping Excision/Datsik basslines (resampling), it's simply time to deviate from that and see what original stuff I can come up with.
originality and innovation, for those who know
keep at it man, I look forward to hearing some of your tunes

Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:09 pm
by Recessive Trait
nowaysj wrote:Brostepforum may have some answers for you as well. Brostep is a nascent offshoot of dubstep, and really describes the sound you are after.
hilarious. such a genuine post ending in complete and utter piss-taking. i thought you said this guy was your buddy. i don't even think brostepforum is online anymore.
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:14 pm
by JWMMakerofMusic
You know mate? Even Datsik said "Be original" and is trying to get away from the sounds he made so famous.

Right now, I'm building up a collection of distortion plugins. I have the CMT Crusher and Frohmage and Camel Crusher. Nice ones indeed. Trying out some AcmeBarGig stuff. REALLY LOVE Voxengo Boogex. There are also some decent plugins in FL Studio (Blood Overdrive for instance and the waveshaper and Fast Distortion and Fruity Squeeze) I've never thought about before.
A good practise I discovered is putting Fruity Limiter in slot 8 of the synth's mixer channel right after crafting a sound within said synth. This way you can't accidentally damage your ears if, say, one of the distortion plugins is a little unstable and produces unexpected spikes (that and keeping the volume low).
Datsik also chops and splices his bass samples. That's another good practice!
I think one of the things I'll try to incorporate is a Nintendo-sounding pulse down low (hardly any bass content even if it's in the bass range) mixed with a triangle from an analogue synth for a bit of body. I hope Dubstep never becomes commercial! You can express any type of emotion with this genre if the tracks I heard from Beatport are any indication. Everything from clean to grit to meloncholy to exciting and everything in between!

Datsik is more on the "exciting" side of things, but it's not appropriate if to have a thick wobble, say, you're trying to characterise a sad feeling.
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:17 pm
by deadly_habit
different placement of your fx and filters in the signal chain will yield different results btw, especially when it comes to resampling. peep some of the doa q&a and stickied knowledge for where the guys like datsik and excision originally got the techniques from.
and yes really sick of this same question week after week

Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:21 pm
by decree
Slap a bitcrusher on any harmonic dark and low bass
then bring that bitch over to the Flanger house
and make the feed back relatively high
and raise and lower the intensity to get various different sounding bass noises
skibbitty doo wopp oooo OH OH OH
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:13 pm
by JWMMakerofMusic
Acme Bar Gig! Damn great stuff! Especially the Shred unit.

Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:26 pm
by wayoftheworld
Now, this isn't really a "what plugins should I use" type thread...No, rather, this is a thread with one simple question, "What manner of plugins/outboard effects do Datsik and Excision use?"
Heh, hopefully now that you've discovered resampling you realize it's not about the plugins but what you're doin with them!
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:21 pm
by bokatordubstep
no matter what crazy shit people may tell you about re-sampling and bit crushing and effects and massive and filters,
the bottom line is that is NOT how they get that sound.
there is only ONE way....
you have to be Canadian.
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:44 pm
by carsonac
there is only ONE way....
you have to be Canadian.
YES! i think all the weed helps hehehe. and the mountains. Canada is the best country in the world
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:47 pm
by nowaysj
Recessive Trait wrote:nowaysj wrote:Brostepforum may have some answers for you as well. Brostep is a nascent offshoot of dubstep, and really describes the sound you are after.
hilarious. such a genuine post ending in complete and utter piss-taking. i thought you said this guy was your buddy. i don't even think brostepforum is online anymore.
That's how I roll.
Naw, though. I'm gonna send every datsik/excision person over there. Sooner or later brostep forum will catch on.
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:48 pm
by Subside
carsonac wrote:
YES! i think all the weed helps hehehe. and the mountains. Canada is the best country in the world
the weed defiantly helps

Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:51 pm
by HangManDubstep
its resampling....just learn how to do it.....
or if your still stuck just ask datsik or excision...there nice guys and sometimes pop on the forum
good luck
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:28 am
by decree
HangManDubstep wrote:its resampling....just learn how to do it.....
or if your still stuck just ask datsik or excision...there nice guys and sometimes pop on the forum
good luck
you can easily get those noises without resampling...
when will you people learn...
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:11 am
by JWMMakerofMusic
browaysj wrote:Recessive Trait wrote:browaysj wrote:Brostepforum may have some answers for you as well. Brostep is a nascent offshoot of dubstep, and really describes the sound you are after.
hilarious. such a genuine post ending in complete and utter piss-taking. i thought you said this guy was your buddy. i don't even think brostepforum is online anymore.
That's how I broll.
Naw, brough. I'm bronna send every datsik/excision person brover there. Sooner or later brostep forum will catch on.
Fixed for you.
When I went there, I thought, "That butthead."

I guess since you know me though you knew you could tease that way with me without cheesing me off.
@bokatordubstep, LOL!

Canada is awesome. It's like America, but quieter, cleaner, and more friendly. And colder. I like colder.

Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:15 am
by nowaysj
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:19 am
by Basic A
Hey would you look at that....Cough cough formant filter layer vowels enable lfos cough ough cough cough...
Its some kinda fuckin secret message or somethin.. damn tricky forum kids...
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:40 pm
by back2onett
decree wrote:HangManDubstep wrote:its resampling....just learn how to do it.....
or if your still stuck just ask datsik or excision...there nice guys and sometimes pop on the forum
good luck
you can easily get those noises without resampling...
when will you people learn...
...
well?
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:42 am
by creeptown
hahah that dubjunks.com interview with datsik is pretty funny if anyone hasnt read it thanks for the link! hahaha we got drunk and ended up in the red lgiht district, wonder what happened there...
Re: Exact plugins/outboard effects that Datsik and Excision use?
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:00 am
by jolly wailer
could be any number of things..
how would we know EXACTLY what they're using and when?
maybe ask sticky buds or excision/datsik themselves